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<div>==Overview==<br />
[[category:viewpoints]]The [[anti-abortion]] viewpoint, most commonly found under the larger umbrella of the more appealing term "[[pro-life]]", refers to the view that [[abortion]] is wrong, regardless of the reason, and should be illegal in most if not all cases{{seed}}<br />
==Pages==<br />
* [[/arguments]]: structured arguments starting with anti-abortion positions<br />
==Groups==<br />
* [[Army of God]]: "a pro-life organization that honors those who murder abortion providers as 'heroes'" according to [http://www.alternet.org/rights/36371/]<br />
* [[L.E.A.R.N. Inc.]] and [[Operation Rescue]]: see [[Durham MZCC abortion truck]]<br />
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==Positions==<br />
Robert, a commenter on [[Contrary Brin]], said, [http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2008/10/cheer-up-theres-still-science-non.html?showComment=1224262740000#c4020739958171488324 on or about 2008-10-18]:<br />
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<p>I've long been a believer that the only people who have a right to demand abortions be made illegal are those who are willing to spend their own money to take in a young expectant mother, pay for their medical bills and insurance costs, pay for the child's costs, and provide the woman with a stipend to help make ends meet. If someone is willing to do all of that... then they can insist abortions be made illegal.</p><br />
<p>Not a single one has risen to my challenge. =^-^=</p><br />
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I'll second that, to the point of agreeing that criminalization of abortion is not a valid position to take ''unless'' you are also proposing a system for providing care to the mother and child as Robert describes. There would need to be some additional conditions on such systems, however, such as "no religious proselytizing". --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 16:22, 19 October 2008 (UTC)<br />
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: {{anonuser|198.166.22.233}} said: You're both douchebags, and that asian style smilie just confirms it. If you recognized that a person's life begins at conception, your argument would be completely baseless. Because then you might as well support the mother's right to kill her child anytime before adulthood. So I guess people who are against infanticide don't have valid positions either unless they are prepared to cover the child's expenses through adulthood.<br />
:: Actually, even if I recognized that a person's life begins at conception, that would only undermine that argument if I agreed that the baby's life was more important than the mother's (which I don't). As it happens,though, I think the question of when life has or hasn't started is a very artificial distinction to make. Some people say "life begins at forty" -- obviously they're not talking about "life" in the same way we are here, but that's my point: "life" has lots of different aspects to it, and they begin at different times, and none of them is like flipping a switch. When does the brain start working? When does the heart start beating? When does the proto-baby become aware? At what point does it acquire a will to live?<br />
:: I'm willing to draw the line at birth, or perhaps at the point of viability. Regardless of that, I wouldn't want to be a baby whose mother ''wanted to abort me'' and was told it was illegal. Life's screwed up enough as it is. =^.^= (Hello Kitty loves you too.) --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 11:50, 15 January 2009 (UTC)<br />
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==Links==<br />
===Filed Links===<br />
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===News & Views===<br />
* '''2007-11-06''' [http://www.talk2action.org/story/2007/11/6/192212/017 A Fresh Challenge to the Religious Right's View of Abortion] by Frederick Clarkson: according to a new book by Gary Willis, "Much of the debate over abortion is based on a misconception, that this is a religious issue, that the pro-life advocates are acting out of religious conviction. It is not a theological matter at all. There is no theological basis for either defending or condemning abortion. Even the popes have said that it is a matter of natural law, to be decided by natural reason."<br />
===Videos===<br />
* '''2007-07-30''' [[youtube:Uk6t_tdOkwo|Libertyville Abortion Demonstration]]: the image on the posters hauled out of the van at the beginning of the video may be the same as [[:Image:2008-05-27 100 3769 abortion truck left.web.jpg|this image]]<br />
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