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* Pretty much everyone in the US is in the top 33% globally. Also, pretty much everyone who has a computer is in the top 5% globally. | * Pretty much everyone in the US is in the top 33% globally. Also, pretty much everyone who has a computer is in the top 5% globally. | ||
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**** {{arg/pro|Anti-taxer is generally rich by comparison to pro-taxer.}} | **** {{arg/pro|Anti-taxer is generally rich by comparison to pro-taxer.}} | ||
** {{arg/pro|This implies an unequal burden, i.e. the Pro-Taxer must empty their wallet before any rich people would need to contribute, rather than each contributing according to their ability.}} | ** {{arg/pro|This implies an unequal burden, i.e. the Pro-Taxer must empty their wallet before any rich people would need to contribute, rather than each contributing according to their ability.}} | ||
− | *** <s>{{ | + | *** <s>{{arg/con|Nope, this is a complete mis-characterization of the argument. The argument is really about who decides how much is taken and from whom. Pro-Taxer wants to be the one to decide when it's someone else's money, but they also want to be the one to decide when others may want to take Pro-Taxer's money. As such, they deem, whether implicitly or explicitly, they know better than others how to decide such matters.}}</s> |
**** {{arg/pro|This is a [[naked assertion|statement without evidence]].}} | **** {{arg/pro|This is a [[naked assertion|statement without evidence]].}} | ||
− | *** {{ | + | *** {{arg/con|Again, those who own a computer are most likely in the top 5% globally. They should therefore contribute to their ability. Oh, but again, Pro-Taxer is the one who wants to decide what each person's ability is and how much each person can spare.}} |
**** {{arg/pro|No, we want to have a discussion about it. We have a starting position, but you are free to argue against it.}} | **** {{arg/pro|No, we want to have a discussion about it. We have a starting position, but you are free to argue against it.}} | ||
** {{arg/pro|The principle of next-rung assistance tends to maximize income inequality.}} | ** {{arg/pro|The principle of next-rung assistance tends to maximize income inequality.}} |
Latest revision as of 20:47, 6 June 2014
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- Pretty much everyone in the US is in the top 33% globally. Also, pretty much everyone who has a computer is in the top 5% globally.
- What conclusion is this arguing against?
- Anti-taxers only apply this argument selectively.
- Objector only raises this claim where Pro-Taxer is not rich.
- This implies an unequal burden, i.e. the Pro-Taxer must empty their wallet before any rich people would need to contribute, rather than each contributing according to their ability.
Nope, this is a complete mis-characterization of the argument. The argument is really about who decides how much is taken and from whom. Pro-Taxer wants to be the one to decide when it's someone else's money, but they also want to be the one to decide when others may want to take Pro-Taxer's money. As such, they deem, whether implicitly or explicitly, they know better than others how to decide such matters.- This is a statement without evidence.
- Again, those who own a computer are most likely in the top 5% globally. They should therefore contribute to their ability. Oh, but again, Pro-Taxer is the one who wants to decide what each person's ability is and how much each person can spare.
- The principle of next-rung assistance tends to maximize income inequality.
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