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<let name=data index=Author>Orson Scott Card</let>
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[[title/short::Homosexual Marriage and Civilization]]
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<let name=data index=Source>The Ornery American</let>
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* '''when''': [[when posted::2004-02-15]]
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* '''author''': [[author::Orson Scott Card]]
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<let name=data index=Title>Homosexual "Marriage" and Civilization</let>
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* '''source''': [[site::The Ornery American]]
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<let name=data index=TitlePlain>Homosexual Marriage and Civilization</let>
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* '''topics''': [[topic::arguments against gay marriage]]
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* '''link''': [[URL::https://web.archive.org/web/20210928134807/http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html]]
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** The [http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html original URL] seems to have been taken down or moved sometime between 2021-09-28 and 2021-11-11.
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* '''title''': [[title::Homosexual "Marriage" and Civilization]]
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* '''summary''': [[Summary::&ldquo;...anyone who has any understanding of how America &ndash; or any civilization &ndash; works... will realize that this new diktat of the courts [in support of [[gay marriage]]] will not have any of the intended effects, while the unintended effects are likely to be [[gay marriage will destroy society|devastating]].&rdquo;]]
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<p>Regardless of their opinion of homosexual "marriage," every American who believes in democracy should be outraged that any court should take it upon itself to dictate such a social innovation without recourse to democratic process.</p>
 
<p>Regardless of their opinion of homosexual "marriage," every American who believes in democracy should be outraged that any court should take it upon itself to dictate such a social innovation without recourse to democratic process.</p>
  
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<p>And we all know the course this thing will follow. Anyone who [[anti-gay|opposes]] this edict will be branded a bigot; any schoolchild who questions the legitimacy of homosexual marriage will be expelled for "hate speech." The fanatical Left will insist that anyone who upholds the fundamental meaning that marriage has always had, everywhere, until this generation, is a "homophobe" and therefore mentally ill.</p>
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<p>And we all know the course this thing will follow. Anyone who [[anti-gay|opposes]] this edict will be branded a bigot; any schoolchild who questions the legitimacy of homosexual marriage will be expelled for "hate speech." The fanatical Left will insist that anyone who upholds the fundamental meaning that [[marriage/history|marriage has always had, everywhere]], until this generation, is a "homophobe" and therefore mentally ill.</p>
  
 
<p>Which is the modern [[Jacobin]] equivalent of crying, "Off with their heads!"</p>
 
<p>Which is the modern [[Jacobin]] equivalent of crying, "Off with their heads!"</p>
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This is the original and now-infamous OSC rant against gay marriage, but not the last.
 
This is the original and now-infamous OSC rant against gay marriage, but not the last.
  
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===Commentary===
 
* '''2005-04-02'''
 
* '''2005-04-02'''
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** [http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20050402.html comments] by webcomic artist Aeire
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** [http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20050402.html comments by webcomic artist Aeire] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20211205140129/http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20050402.html archive.org], [https://archive.ph/lsoIS archive.ph])
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*** [http://forums.keenspot.com/viewtopic.php?t=75430 forum posting] attempting to explain and reconcile Card's position with those of Aeire and others. Starts with a post by a practicing [[Mormon]] who explains the Mormon views on sex and gender. Gets sidetracked on condemning [[Bill Clinton|Clinton]] as being worse than [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]]... long post, with many responses.
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*** [https://archive.ph/OdIaj forum posting]</s> attempting to explain and reconcile Card's position with those of Aeire and others. Starts with a post by a practicing [[Mormon]] who explains the Mormon views on sex and gender. Gets sidetracked on condemning [[Bill Clinton|Clinton]] as being worse than [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]]... long post, with many responses.
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**** (original URL: http://forums.keenspot.com/viewtopic.php?t=75430 - no copies on archive.org)
 
** [http://web.archive.org/web/20051025153309/http://www.aeire.com/postings/1112515182.shtml Oy. (On Card and misinterpretations)] by Aeire, continuing the dialog
 
** [http://web.archive.org/web/20051025153309/http://www.aeire.com/postings/1112515182.shtml Oy. (On Card and misinterpretations)] by Aeire, continuing the dialog
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Latest revision as of 14:15, 9 October 2022

Excerpt

Regardless of their opinion of homosexual "marriage," every American who believes in democracy should be outraged that any court should take it upon itself to dictate such a social innovation without recourse to democratic process.

And we all know the course this thing will follow. Anyone who opposes this edict will be branded a bigot; any schoolchild who questions the legitimacy of homosexual marriage will be expelled for "hate speech." The fanatical Left will insist that anyone who upholds the fundamental meaning that marriage has always had, everywhere, until this generation, is a "homophobe" and therefore mentally ill.

Which is the modern Jacobin equivalent of crying, "Off with their heads!"

We will once again be performing a potentially devastating social experiment on ourselves without any attempt to predict the consequences and find out if the American people actually want them.

But anyone who has any understanding of how America – or any civilization – works, of the forces already at play, will realize that this new diktat of the courts will not have any of the intended effects, while the unintended effects are likely to be devastating.

This is the original and now-infamous OSC rant against gay marriage, but not the last.

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Commentary




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