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==Claim==
 
Former president [[Bill Clinton]]'s [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis|2008-09-25 appearance on the ''Today Show'']] has been cited as an admission that [[Bill Clinton helped cause the 2008 mortgage crisis|his administration helped cause]] the [[2008 mortgage crisis]].
 
Former president [[Bill Clinton]]'s [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis|2008-09-25 appearance on the ''Today Show'']] has been cited as an admission that [[Bill Clinton helped cause the 2008 mortgage crisis|his administration helped cause]] the [[2008 mortgage crisis]].
  
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However, Clinton does not actually agree that the claim is ''true''; he merely agrees that in the current context it certainly might ''seem'' true, and his subsequent justifications relate more to the question of whether it was a dangerous move.
 
However, Clinton does not actually agree that the claim is ''true''; he merely agrees that in the current context it certainly might ''seem'' true, and his subsequent justifications relate more to the question of whether it was a dangerous move.
  
The fact that he is not agreeing with the claim of cause-and-effect is made more clear by an earlier exchange in the same interview, where Lauer cites then-president [[George W. Bush]]'s claim that the roots of the crisis "go back more than a decade", i.e. to Clinton's administration &ndash; with which he flatly disagrees, adding that the only thing the Democrats did wrong was not pursue more aggressive regulation of [[derivatives]], and that furthermore the problem didn't really "take off" until the [[US Securities and Exchange Commission|SEC]] under [[George W. Bush|Bush]] relaxed oversight and removed the "[[uptick rule]]", thus enabling some of the worst behaviors which clearly did lead to the crisis.
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The fact that he is not agreeing with the claim of cause-and-effect is made more clear by an earlier exchange in the same interview, where Lauer cites then-president [[George W. Bush]]'s claim that the roots of the crisis "go back more than a decade", i.e. to Clinton's administration &ndash; with which he flatly disagrees, adding that the only thing the Democrats did wrong was not pursue more aggressive regulation of [[derivatives]], and that furthermore the problem didn't really "take off" until the [[US Securities and Exchange Commission|SEC]] under [[George W. Bush|Bush]] relaxed oversight and removed the "{{l/wp|uptick rule}}", thus enabling some of the worst behaviors which clearly did lead to the crisis.
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* [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis]]: the ''Today Show'' appearance (video)
 
** [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis/transcript|transcription]] of the interview
 
 
 
==Citations==
 
 
* '''2008-09-25'''
 
* '''2008-09-25'''
 
** [http://progressconservative.com/2008/09/25/clinton-admits-blame-for-subprime-lending-lies-with-his-administration/ Clinton Admits Blame for Subprime] posted by Mike on [[The Big Stick]]: the original? Gives the basic argument.
 
** [http://progressconservative.com/2008/09/25/clinton-admits-blame-for-subprime-lending-lies-with-his-administration/ Clinton Admits Blame for Subprime] posted by Mike on [[The Big Stick]]: the original? Gives the basic argument.
 
** [http://www.politicalcoffeehouse.com/2008/09/bill-clinton-admits-blame-with-mortgage.html The Political Coffeehouse]: "Bill Clinton admitted on Good Morning America that Democrats are the blame for the current [http://www.politicalcoffeehouse.com/2008/09/i-vote-no-bailout.html crisis] and the need for a [http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1044244/federal_reserve_finances_bailout_of.html?cat=3 government bailout]. You almost think he might be happy if John McCain wins the Presidency." No further discussion.
 
** [http://www.politicalcoffeehouse.com/2008/09/bill-clinton-admits-blame-with-mortgage.html The Political Coffeehouse]: "Bill Clinton admitted on Good Morning America that Democrats are the blame for the current [http://www.politicalcoffeehouse.com/2008/09/i-vote-no-bailout.html crisis] and the need for a [http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1044244/federal_reserve_finances_bailout_of.html?cat=3 government bailout]. You almost think he might be happy if John McCain wins the Presidency." No further discussion.
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* [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis]]: the ''Today Show'' appearance (video)
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** [[2008-09-25 Bill Clinton on economic crisis/transcript|transcription]] of the interview
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* {{cwre|Myths/Bill Clinton admitted blame for causing the mortgage crisis}}: summary

Latest revision as of 20:49, 11 January 2015

Claim

Former president Bill Clinton's 2008-09-25 appearance on the Today Show has been cited as an admission that his administration helped cause the 2008 mortgage crisis.

The argument cites the interviewer (Matt Lauer) asking Clinton if he agrees with the 1999 NYT article which claimed that his administration was at that time pressuring Fannie Mae into lowering their credit standards and that this was dangerous – to which Clinton appears to agree, and then appears to try justifying his actions in context despite having made a bad decision.

However, Clinton does not actually agree that the claim is true; he merely agrees that in the current context it certainly might seem true, and his subsequent justifications relate more to the question of whether it was a dangerous move.

The fact that he is not agreeing with the claim of cause-and-effect is made more clear by an earlier exchange in the same interview, where Lauer cites then-president George W. Bush's claim that the roots of the crisis "go back more than a decade", i.e. to Clinton's administration – with which he flatly disagrees, adding that the only thing the Democrats did wrong was not pursue more aggressive regulation of derivatives, and that furthermore the problem didn't really "take off" until the SEC under Bush relaxed oversight and removed the "uptick rule", thus enabling some of the worst behaviors which clearly did lead to the crisis.

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