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"[[Dear Muslima]]" is the informal title of a comment [[Richard Dawkins]] made on the [[Pharyngula]] blog attcking [[Rebecca Watson]] for raising the issue which became known as [[Elevatorgate]]. The comment is framed as a letter to a Muslim woman – presumably [[Ayaan Hirsi Ali]], who has talked extensively about the treatment of women in Muslim-dominated countries – sarcastically dismissing her concerns as being trivial compared to those Watkins raised, while making it clear that they are in fact much worse.
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"[[Dear Muslima]]" is the opening phrase of an infamous comment [[Richard Dawkins]] made on the [[Pharyngula]] blog attacking [[Rebecca Watson]] for raising the issue which became known as [[Elevatorgate]]. The comment is framed as a letter, ostensibly representing Watson's position, to a [[Muslim]] woman – presumably [[Ayaan Hirsi Ali]], who has talked extensively about the treatment of women in Muslim-dominated countries.
  
The comment ultimately serves as a dismissal of Watkins's concerns on the grounds that Muslima's are actually much worse – a classic case of [[appeal to worse problems]].
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The comment essentially serves as a sarcastic dismissal of Watson's concerns as being trivial compared to Ali's. This is a classic case of [[appeal to worse problems]], as well as [[straw man]]ning Watson's argument by representing her as being dismissive ("For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin!") of Ali's concerns, which she was not. (Watson never even raised the issue of Muslim misogyny, so Dawkins is also [[changing the subject]].)
  
 
The complete text of the comment, as preserved [https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/06/28/dawkins-and-dear-muslima/ by PZ Myers], is:
 
The complete text of the comment, as preserved [https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2018/06/28/dawkins-and-dear-muslima/ by PZ Myers], is:
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Dawkins then went on, in a later comment (also preserved in the post linked above), to claim that Watkins had in fact suffered no harm at all, when this wasn't even the main point of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHwduG1Frk Watson's video]. Her comments in the video were about the ongoing problem of sexist behavior and [[microaggression]] which, over multiple incidents, does cause harm.
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Dawkins then went on, in a later comment (also preserved in the post linked above), to claim that Watkins had in fact suffered no harm at all, when this wasn't even the main point of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKHwduG1Frk Watson's video]. Her comments in the video were about the ongoing problem of sexist behavior and [[microaggression]] which, over multiple incidents, clearly does cause harm.
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Latest revision as of 13:54, 24 August 2020

About

"Dear Muslima" is the opening phrase of an infamous comment Richard Dawkins made on the Pharyngula blog attacking Rebecca Watson for raising the issue which became known as Elevatorgate. The comment is framed as a letter, ostensibly representing Watson's position, to a Muslim woman – presumably Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has talked extensively about the treatment of women in Muslim-dominated countries.

The comment essentially serves as a sarcastic dismissal of Watson's concerns as being trivial compared to Ali's. This is a classic case of appeal to worse problems, as well as straw manning Watson's argument by representing her as being dismissive ("For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin!") of Ali's concerns, which she was not. (Watson never even raised the issue of Muslim misogyny, so Dawkins is also changing the subject.)

The complete text of the comment, as preserved by PZ Myers, is:

Dear Muslima

Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and . . . yawn . . . don’t tell me yet again, I know you aren’t allowed to drive a car, and you can’t leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you’ll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering your poor American sisters have to put up with.

Only this week I heard of one, she calls herself Skep”chick”, and do you know what happened to her? A man in a hotel elevator invited her back to his room for coffee. I am not exaggerating. He really did. He invited her back to his room for coffee. Of course she said no, and of course he didn’t lay a finger on her, but even so . . .

And you, Muslima, think you have misogyny to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.

Richard

Dawkins then went on, in a later comment (also preserved in the post linked above), to claim that Watkins had in fact suffered no harm at all, when this wasn't even the main point of Watson's video. Her comments in the video were about the ongoing problem of sexist behavior and microaggression which, over multiple incidents, clearly does cause harm.

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