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==Posted to Creative Minority==
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''posted [http://www.creativeminorityreport.com/2008/07/student-holds-eucharist-hostage.html here], and scrubbed (all evidence that I had posted was removed) by the admin:''
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I've moved some stuff I had been collecting here to more appropriate pages which have now been created:
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* [[2008 sacred wafer scandal]] has the blogosphere-reaction timeline
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:Seems to me that by attempting to elevate this harmless prank to the status of "hate crime", the Catholic Church has now lost any moral authority it might have had. How can it plausibly claim to care about the sanctity of human life when it apparently believes that the "improper" use of a piece of ritually-blessed cracker is worse than murder?
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* [[Talk:2008-07-06 Student Holds Eucharist Hostage]] has my comment on the CMR posting
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--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 15:11, 14 July 2008 (EDT)
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:Not only was this nowhere near being a "hate crime", it wasn't even a <i>crime</i>: Mr. Cook was <i>given the cracker to eat</i> for goodness' sake. Even calling it "desecration" is a stretch that defies reason.
 
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:They can excommunicate him for violating the rules if they must, but leave it at that. All these threats and harassment are juvenile in the extreme -- far more juvenile than Mr. Cook's miniscule prank, which has unexpectedly done the world a significant service by revealing the level of thinking to which religion apparently confines some people.
 
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''The admin apparently closed comments after scrubbing my comment, claiming that we weren't following rules, i.e. being polite. Sheer hypocrisy.''
 
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''A comment before mine which was removed less severely:''
 
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{{excerpt|This is just silly said...}}
 
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Amazing! All this anger and fury over a cracker, but when children are being molested not a word of complaint?
 
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Interesting "morality" you got there.
 
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--[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:33, 9 July 2008 (EDT)
 
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== Pharyngula ==
 
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Some events have unfolded since PZ first posted about this. In order:
 
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* '''2008-07-08''' [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/its_a_goddamned_cracker.php IT'S A FRACKIN’ CRACKER!]: PZ asks for more samples of the Host upon which to commit sacrilege and thereby somehow threaten the Catholic faith with a fate worse than death; PZ shuts down the comments at #1007 in order to reduce load on the server, but posts "fresh crackers!" specifically for further comments.
 
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* '''2008-07-10'''
 
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** [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/fight_back_against_bill_donohu.php Fight back against Bill Donohue!]: The president of the [[Catholic League (US)|Catholic League]] is [http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1459 putting pressure] on both the [[University of Minnesota, Morris|UMM]] and the State of Minnesota to "do something" about this horrible desecration, regarding which it is apparently "hard to think of anything more vile". o.0 Comments are shut down at #1227, and "Internet getting full" is opened for further comments.
 
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** [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/fresh_crackers.php Fresh crackers!]: 579 comments as of this writing
 
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* '''2008-07-11''' [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/internet_getting_full_heres_a.php Internet getting full, here's a new hole to dump comments into]: only 156 comments as of this writing
 
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Interestingly, the link to Pharyngula has now (2008-07-11) disappeared from PZ's listing at UMM's [http://www.morris.umn.edu/academic/biology/faculty.html biology faculty] page. This would seem to be UMM's only link to it; is UMM responding to pressure?
 

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--Woozle 15:11, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

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