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− | * [[/misquotes]]: misquoting Jefferson appears to be a popular right-wing pastime | + | * [[/quotes]] |
+ | * [[/misquotes]]: misquoting Jefferson appears to be a popular [[right-wing]] pastime | ||
+ | ==Slavery / Racism== | ||
+ | Jefferson kept slaves, and made it clear in some of his writings that he did consider black people to be inferior mentally. | ||
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+ | Jefferson's {{date|1791-08-30}} [http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/jefferson/79.html letter] to [[Benjamin Banneker]] (in response to Banneker's {{date|1791-08-19}} [http://afroamhistory.about.com/library/blbanneker_letter.htm letter] to him) would seem to indicate that he was more than willing to consider evidence contradicting this view, but apparently in 1809 he reversed himself in letters to [[Henri Gregoire]] and [[Joel Barlow]] ''(texts needed)''. | ||
+ | ==Christianity== | ||
+ | The question of whether Jefferson was a [[Christian]] is often raised in debates between [[atheist]]s and [[Christians]]. | ||
+ | ===[[structured debate]]=== | ||
+ | [[category:debates]] | ||
+ | :{{arg/main|Jefferson was a Christian.}} | ||
+ | ::<s>{{arg/support|Jefferson's signing of his name beneath the quote "In the year of our Lord Jesus Christ" suggests that he accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord.}}</s> | ||
+ | :::{{arg/counter|Designating the year as "the year of our lord" was common practice at the time, and signing underneath such an inscription is no more proof of belief than is someone paying with money inscribed "[[in God we trust]]".}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/counter|Source: [http://www.philipvickersfithian.com/2011/05/us-constitution-and-year-of-our-lord.html]}} | ||
+ | :::{{arg/info|A source is needed for this actual wording, specifically the inclusion of the words "Jesus Christ".}} | ||
+ | ::<s>{{arg/support|Jefferson's personal contributions to various Christian Churches suggest that he was a supporter of Christianity.}}</s> | ||
+ | :::{{arg/counter|Contributions to a church do not necessarily prove religious affiliation; atheist fantasy author [[Terry Pratchett]] contributed significant sums to his local church to help with its maintenance and upkeep.}} | ||
+ | :::{{arg/info|A source is needed regarding Jefferson's financial contributions to churches.}} | ||
+ | ::{{arg/support|Jefferson's authorship of the "[[Jefferson Bible]]" suggests that he was a Christian.}} | ||
+ | :<s>{{arg/main|Jefferson was not a Christian.}}</s> | ||
+ | ::<s>{{arg/support|[[/misquotes/Christianity|This quote]] suggests strongly that he is not.}}</s> | ||
+ | :::{{arg/counter|Unfortunately, that quote does not appear to be authentic.}} | ||
+ | :{{arg/main|Jefferson was not a ''conventional'' Christian.}} | ||
+ | ::{{arg/support|He disagreed with the idea of a virgin birth. (Source needed.)}} | ||
+ | ::{{arg/support|Jefferson's authorship of the "[[Jefferson Bible]]" suggests that he was more than willing to break with much of Christian doctrine.}} | ||
==Links== | ==Links== | ||
===Reference=== | ===Reference=== | ||
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* [http://books.google.com/books?id=icGh3NxREIIC The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia] (1900): Jefferson quotes, by topic | * [http://books.google.com/books?id=icGh3NxREIIC The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia] (1900): Jefferson quotes, by topic | ||
* [[wikiquote:Thomas Jefferson|WikiQuote]] | * [[wikiquote:Thomas Jefferson|WikiQuote]] | ||
+ | ===News=== | ||
+ | {{links/news}} |
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Slavery / Racism
Jefferson kept slaves, and made it clear in some of his writings that he did consider black people to be inferior mentally.
Jefferson's 1791-08-30 letter to Benjamin Banneker (in response to Banneker's 1791-08-19 letter to him) would seem to indicate that he was more than willing to consider evidence contradicting this view, but apparently in 1809 he reversed himself in letters to Henri Gregoire and Joel Barlow (texts needed).
Christianity
The question of whether Jefferson was a Christian is often raised in debates between atheists and Christians.
structured debate
- Jefferson was a Christian.
Jefferson's signing of his name beneath the quote "In the year of our Lord Jesus Christ" suggests that he accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord.- Designating the year as "the year of our lord" was common practice at the time, and signing underneath such an inscription is no more proof of belief than is someone paying with money inscribed "in God we trust".
- Source: [1]
- A source is needed for this actual wording, specifically the inclusion of the words "Jesus Christ".
- Designating the year as "the year of our lord" was common practice at the time, and signing underneath such an inscription is no more proof of belief than is someone paying with money inscribed "in God we trust".
Jefferson's personal contributions to various Christian Churches suggest that he was a supporter of Christianity.- Contributions to a church do not necessarily prove religious affiliation; atheist fantasy author Terry Pratchett contributed significant sums to his local church to help with its maintenance and upkeep.
- A source is needed regarding Jefferson's financial contributions to churches.
- Jefferson's authorship of the "Jefferson Bible" suggests that he was a Christian.
Jefferson was not a Christian.This quote suggests strongly that he is not.
- Jefferson was not a conventional Christian.
- He disagreed with the idea of a virgin birth. (Source needed.)
- Jefferson's authorship of the "Jefferson Bible" suggests that he was more than willing to break with much of Christian doctrine.
Links
Reference
- Wikipedia
- Conservapedia was unavailable (2008-01-02 15:48 EST); could not verify article
- dKosopedia
- SourceWatch: stub
- The Jeffersonian Cyclopedia (1900): Jefferson quotes, by topic
- WikiQuote