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===Reference===
 
===Reference===
 
* [https://storify.com/LouiseMensch/the-witch-hunt-on-sir-tim-hunt The Witch-Hunt of Sir #TimHunt : The Changing Story]: includes much of the Twitter dialogue between attendees and other key players
 
* [https://storify.com/LouiseMensch/the-witch-hunt-on-sir-tim-hunt The Witch-Hunt of Sir #TimHunt : The Changing Story]: includes much of the Twitter dialogue between attendees and other key players
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* [https://storify.com/deborahblum/tim-hunt-and-his-jokes-about-women-scientists Tim Hunt "jokes" about women scientists. Or not.]
 
===Timeline===
 
===Timeline===
 
* '''2015-06-08''' [https://twitter.com/connie_stlouis/status/607813783075954688 Tweet: Connie St Louis] (most of the content is text in an image)
 
* '''2015-06-08''' [https://twitter.com/connie_stlouis/status/607813783075954688 Tweet: Connie St Louis] (most of the content is text in an image)
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* '''2015-06-10''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/10/mediocre/
 
* '''2015-06-10''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/10/mediocre/
 
* '''2015-06-10''' [http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/sir-tim-hunts-sexist-remarks-with-lab-rats-like-him-is-it-any-wonder-theres-a-shortage-of-women-in-science-10311591.html Sir Tim Hunt's sexist remarks: With lab rats like him, is it any wonder there’s a shortage of women in science?]: cites Connie St Louis as saying "there was this deathly silence. A lot of my colleagues ... couldn’t believe somebody would be prepared to stand up and be so crass, rude and openly sexist." but does not link to a source
 
* '''2015-06-10''' [http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/sir-tim-hunts-sexist-remarks-with-lab-rats-like-him-is-it-any-wonder-theres-a-shortage-of-women-in-science-10311591.html Sir Tim Hunt's sexist remarks: With lab rats like him, is it any wonder there’s a shortage of women in science?]: cites Connie St Louis as saying "there was this deathly silence. A lot of my colleagues ... couldn’t believe somebody would be prepared to stand up and be so crass, rude and openly sexist." but does not link to a source
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* '''2015-06-10''' [http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/10/nobel-scientist-tim-hunt-female-scientists-cause-trouble-for-men-in-labs Nobel scientist Tim Hunt: female scientists cause trouble for men in labs]
 
* '''2015-06-10''' [http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0615/100615-tim-hunt Sir Tim Hunt FRS and UCL]: resignation announcement
 
* '''2015-06-10''' [http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0615/100615-tim-hunt Sir Tim Hunt FRS and UCL]: resignation announcement
 
* '''2015-06-11''' [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11667002/Sexism-row-scientist-Sir-Tim-Hunt-quits-over-trouble-with-girls-speech.html Sexism row scientist Sir Tim Hunt quits over ‘trouble with girls’ speech]
 
* '''2015-06-11''' [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11667002/Sexism-row-scientist-Sir-Tim-Hunt-quits-over-trouble-with-girls-speech.html Sexism row scientist Sir Tim Hunt quits over ‘trouble with girls’ speech]
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* '''2015-06-11''' [http://www.theguardian.com/education/2015/jun/11/nobel-laureate-sir-tim-hunt-resigns-trouble-with-girls-comments Nobel laureate Tim Hunt resigns after 'trouble with girls' comments]
 
* '''2015-06-11''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/11/removing-sexism-strengthens-academia/
 
* '''2015-06-11''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/11/removing-sexism-strengthens-academia/
 
* '''2015-06-11''' http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/11/1392298/-British-Nobel-Laureate-resigns-after-being-exposed-as-a-chauvinist-oaf
 
* '''2015-06-11''' http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/06/11/1392298/-British-Nobel-Laureate-resigns-after-being-exposed-as-a-chauvinist-oaf
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* '''2015-06-13''' [http://reason.com/archives/2015/06/13/the-illiberal-persecution-of-tim-hunt The Illiberal Persecution of Tim Hunt]
 
* '''2015-06-13''' [http://reason.com/archives/2015/06/13/the-illiberal-persecution-of-tim-hunt The Illiberal Persecution of Tim Hunt]
 
* '''2015-06-13''' [http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hung-out-to-dry-interview-mary-collins Tim Hunt: 'I’ve been hung out to dry. They haven't even bothered to ask for my side of affairs'] Hunt's wife, Mary Collins: "I was told by a senior that Tim had to resign immediately or be sacked – though I was told it would be treated as a low-key affair. Tim duly emailed his resignation when he got home. The university promptly announced his resignation on its website and started tweeting that they had got rid of him. Essentially, they had hung both of us out to dry. They certainly did not treat it as a low-key affair. I got no warning about the announcement and no offer of help, even though I have worked there for nearly 20 years. It has done me lasting damage. What they did was unacceptable."
 
* '''2015-06-13''' [http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-hung-out-to-dry-interview-mary-collins Tim Hunt: 'I’ve been hung out to dry. They haven't even bothered to ask for my side of affairs'] Hunt's wife, Mary Collins: "I was told by a senior that Tim had to resign immediately or be sacked – though I was told it would be treated as a low-key affair. Tim duly emailed his resignation when he got home. The university promptly announced his resignation on its website and started tweeting that they had got rid of him. Essentially, they had hung both of us out to dry. They certainly did not treat it as a low-key affair. I got no warning about the announcement and no offer of help, even though I have worked there for nearly 20 years. It has done me lasting damage. What they did was unacceptable."
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* '''2015-06-13''' http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/13/tim-hunt-forced-to-resign
 
* '''2015-06-14''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/14/the-nobel-is-not-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/
 
* '''2015-06-14''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/14/the-nobel-is-not-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/
 
* '''2015-06-15''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/15/liberal-academia-gets-to-tell-brendan-oneill-that-hes-full-of-shit/
 
* '''2015-06-15''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/15/liberal-academia-gets-to-tell-brendan-oneill-that-hes-full-of-shit/
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* '''2015-06-20''' [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11688134/Nobel-prizewinners-defend-Sir-Tim-Hunt-amid-sexism-row.html Nobel prizewinners defend Sir Tim Hunt amid 'sexism' row]
 
* '''2015-06-20''' [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/11688134/Nobel-prizewinners-defend-Sir-Tim-Hunt-amid-sexism-row.html Nobel prizewinners defend Sir Tim Hunt amid 'sexism' row]
 
* '''2015-06-20''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/20/i-thought-they-didnt-like-hyperbole/
 
* '''2015-06-20''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/20/i-thought-they-didnt-like-hyperbole/
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* '''2015-06-20''' [http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/20/sir-tim-hunt-gratitude-female-scientists-support-joke Sir Tim Hunt: my gratitude to female scientists for their support] "The beleaguered UK scientist Sir Tim Hunt on Saturday thanked the hundreds of female scientists who have written to support him in the wake of the furore triggered by his controversial remarks about women in science."
 
* '''2015-06-21''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2015/06/utterly-ruined-by-sexist-speaker/
 
* '''2015-06-21''' http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2015/06/utterly-ruined-by-sexist-speaker/
 
* '''2015-06-22''' [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/22/sexist_scientist_tim_hunt_the_real_story_127491.html "Sexist Scientist" Tim Hunt: The Real Story]: takes the position that Hunt was "an awkward self-deprecating joke – greeted with laughter" and that the "real scandal" is "irresponsible journalism magnified by social media frenzy."
 
* '''2015-06-22''' [http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/07/22/sexist_scientist_tim_hunt_the_real_story_127491.html "Sexist Scientist" Tim Hunt: The Real Story]: takes the position that Hunt was "an awkward self-deprecating joke – greeted with laughter" and that the "real scandal" is "irresponsible journalism magnified by social media frenzy."

Revision as of 15:51, 25 July 2015

Claims

  • There was a "witch hunt"[1], "inquisition"[2], and/or "feeding frenzy"[1] against Tim Hunt, who was "crucified by fanatics"[3], an "intolerant mob"[2] and "expel[led] from public life"[2], "hounded out"[4] by "mob rule"[1] in a "trial by social media"[4].
    • How so? No relevant details given.
  • Hunt was "hung out to dry" by UCL.
    • If he was "hung out to dry", why did he resign voluntarily? Did he even argue with UCL about it? Where is that argument reported?
  • Hunt was only joking.[2]
    • What is the evidence for this?
      • The laughter in the original recording proves that he was joking.
        • No, it doesn't. That just proves that the people who laughed thought what he said was funny -- which could have been it could have been "funny as in true" or "funny as in I can't believe he said that".
      • Hunt himself said he was only joking.[5]
        • He also seems to have meant them sincerely nonetheless. "I did mean the part about having trouble with girls. It is true that people - I have fallen in love with people in the lab and people in the lab have fallen in love with me and it's very disruptive to the science because it's terribly important that in a lab people are on a level playing field. I found that these emotional entanglements made life very difficult."[5]
      • He also acknowledged that, in retrospect, the comments were not funny: "I accept that my attempts at a self-deprecating joke were ill-judged and not in the least bit funny."[6]
  • More female scientists have come out in support of Hunt than have come out against.
    • Documentation? This would require a collection of links to female scientists expressing opinions on Hunt. Where is this collection?
  • Hunt was fired from his position.
    • No, he resigned.
  • Hunt was forced to resign.[3]
    • He apparently emailed in his resignation on request, without comment. "Tim duly emailed his resignation when he got home."[7]
  • Hunt was misquoted.
    • No, Hunt has never denied saying the things attributed to him by St Louis (and the recording apparently didn't reveal any misquotes either).

Timeline

The affair seems to have started with this Tweet by Connie St. Louis on June 8: https://twitter.com/connie_stlouis/status/607813783075954688

June 9

A Daily Beast article describes Hunt's original remarks, explains why they're a problem, and goes on to paint a broader picture of sexism in science : http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/09/nobel-prize-winning-biologist-calls-women-love-hungry-cry-babies.html

That article was discussed in a blog post by PZ Myers on Pharyngula: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/09/being-a-good-scientist-doesnt-make-one-a-good-person/ "All I can say is... fuck off, dinosaur. We’re better off without you in any position of authority."

The Royal Society (of which Hunt is a member, but not an employee as far as I can tell) then "acted to distance itself" from Hunt's remarks: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/10/mediocre/ -- the Royal Society is hardly a bastion of inclusiveness (355 years old and never once had a female president), so I can't see this as a knee-jerk reaction.

June 10

Hunt resigns from his honorary position at UCL (University College London): http://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/0615/100615-tim-hunt

The position was unpaid and did not offer any special privileges; he wasn't doing research there or anything. It was purely for PR. When he dramatically failed at maintaining UCL's positive reputation, it was time to end the relationship.

June 11

PZ Myers reacts approvingly: http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/06/11/removing-sexism-strengthens-academia/

...but the matter didn't end there.

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