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<let name=claim>Hard work does not always lead to success.</let>
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: {{arg/support|Sometimes you work hard all your life and never get anywhere, or only find moderate success after a disproportionately mountainous amount of work.}}
:: {{arg/support|Some very difficult, onerous, and necessary jobs are not very materially rewarding.}}
:: {{arg/support|Sometimes, success is more dependent on political factors than on the actual quality of the work.}}
:: {{arg/support|Sometimes, success is hampered by uncontrollable factors, e.g. working for many years doing excellent work for a company which goes bankrupt and leaves you with no retirement pay.}}
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