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This is an experiment to see if [[mwsite:Semantic MediaWiki|Semantic MediaWiki]] can be used to mark up a structured debate in a way that moves us closer to an automated interface. | This is an experiment to see if [[mwsite:Semantic MediaWiki|Semantic MediaWiki]] can be used to mark up a structured debate in a way that moves us closer to an automated interface. | ||
==Status== | ==Status== | ||
| − | * (major problem) No apparent way to suppress calling a template even when there are no results. "default=" adds text if no results, does not suppress template. | + | * (2011-12-09) Now writing user interface code as plug-in for [[htyp:w3tpl|w3tpl]] instead of trying to use templates or SMW syntax; continuing to use SMW as data-storage format. |
| − | * (minor problem) SMW's penchant for making all values (except numerically-oriented) into links to nonexistent wiki pages is annoying, but can probably be worked around. | + | * <s>(major problem) No apparent way to suppress calling a template even when there are no results. "default=" adds text if no results, does not suppress template.</s> complexity of interface calls for PHP code, so template behavior is no longer critical |
| − | * Will need some way to progressively increase depth for each level of argument. Can we mix SMW output with raw HTML from w3tpl? If not, can we pass a counter and increment it inside the template? Will MW complain about template recursion? | + | * <s>(minor problem) SMW's penchant for making all values (except numerically-oriented) into links to nonexistent wiki pages is annoying, but can probably be worked around.</s> "text" and "string" types display plain text |
| − | * Will need some way to show different icon for "pro" and "con" points. Maybe we just iterate through "pro" points, then iterate through "con" points (or vice-versa). That format seems usable and maybe even desirable. | + | * <s>Will need some way to progressively increase depth for each level of argument. Can we mix SMW output with raw HTML from w3tpl? If not, can we pass a counter and increment it inside the template? Will MW complain about template recursion?</s> using PHP code makes this not a problem |
| + | * <s>Will need some way to show different icon for "pro" and "con" points. Maybe we just iterate through "pro" points, then iterate through "con" points (or vice-versa). That format seems usable and maybe even desirable.</s> using PHP code makes this not a problem | ||
==Debate Topics== | ==Debate Topics== | ||
* [[/2008 sacred wafer scandal]] | * [[/2008 sacred wafer scandal]] | ||
Latest revision as of 00:54, 10 December 2011
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This is an experiment to see if Semantic MediaWiki can be used to mark up a structured debate in a way that moves us closer to an automated interface.
Status
- (2011-12-09) Now writing user interface code as plug-in for w3tpl instead of trying to use templates or SMW syntax; continuing to use SMW as data-storage format.
(major problem) No apparent way to suppress calling a template even when there are no results. "default=" adds text if no results, does not suppress template.complexity of interface calls for PHP code, so template behavior is no longer critical(minor problem) SMW's penchant for making all values (except numerically-oriented) into links to nonexistent wiki pages is annoying, but can probably be worked around."text" and "string" types display plain textWill need some way to progressively increase depth for each level of argument. Can we mix SMW output with raw HTML from w3tpl? If not, can we pass a counter and increment it inside the template? Will MW complain about template recursion?using PHP code makes this not a problemWill need some way to show different icon for "pro" and "con" points. Maybe we just iterate through "pro" points, then iterate through "con" points (or vice-versa). That format seems usable and maybe even desirable.using PHP code makes this not a problem