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| + | ==Preliminary Conclusions== | ||
| + | I don't think he's making a good case against GW methodology. His case seems primarily based on the "fear" tactics that he claims GW proponents are using: in his case, fear that science has become corrupted, fear of being manipulated and controlled by bureaucrats, fear of looking stupid for being taken in by political dogma (Lincoln quote)... | ||
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| + | If the papers are as biased as he says they are, why doesn't he take them on individually? Surely there is a process for criticizing published scientific papers? (Did he send any "letters to the editor" to the journals in question, when the papers were originally published? If so, what were the responses?) | ||
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| + | If the various organizations he attacks are as corrupted as he claims, why not attack them head-on for the flaws in their process? Have they been approached with these criticisms and given a chance to respond? Has the mainstream climate science community responded at all? | ||
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| + | --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 01:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
==Argument== | ==Argument== | ||
| − | ===Part 1=== | + | ===Part 1 - INTRODUCTION=== |
* by the end of the 1960s, scientists came to feel that the real basis for support of science was not gratitude but fear | * by the end of the 1960s, scientists came to feel that the real basis for support of science was not gratitude but fear | ||
* scientists therefore became motivated to focus on generating fear, which (with the end of the [[Cold War]] in the 1980s) boiled down to: | * scientists therefore became motivated to focus on generating fear, which (with the end of the [[Cold War]] in the 1980s) boiled down to: | ||
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* Climatology is also ripe for fear-based exploitation, being associated with other fields which relate to [[natural disaster]]s ("meteorology, oceanography, geography, geochemistry, etc.") | * Climatology is also ripe for fear-based exploitation, being associated with other fields which relate to [[natural disaster]]s ("meteorology, oceanography, geography, geochemistry, etc.") | ||
* Climate science has also been "targeted" for exploitation by [[environmentalism]] | * Climate science has also been "targeted" for exploitation by [[environmentalism]] | ||
| − | ===Part 2=== | + | ===Part 2 - CONSCIOUS EFFORTS TO POLITICIZE CLIMATE SCIENCE=== |
...more elaboration of the ways science gets politicized: | ...more elaboration of the ways science gets politicized: | ||
* large organizations and even universities are hierarchical structures where positions and policies are determined by small executive councils or even single individuals. | * large organizations and even universities are hierarchical structures where positions and policies are determined by small executive councils or even single individuals. | ||
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** '''Query''': even the traditional climate reconstructions of the past 1100-2000 years which ''do'' clearly show the Medieval Warming also show the "hockey stick" jag starting in ~1900. GW theory is not all based on models, and this is one example. | ** '''Query''': even the traditional climate reconstructions of the past 1100-2000 years which ''do'' clearly show the Medieval Warming also show the "hockey stick" jag starting in ~1900. GW theory is not all based on models, and this is one example. | ||
| − | ... | + | ...gives a few more examples of GW papers supposedly gone wrong... |
This guy has wasted enough of my time for now. Maybe I (or someone else) will come back to this later and see if there's any meat in the rest of the article. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 01:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | This guy has wasted enough of my time for now. Maybe I (or someone else) will come back to this later and see if there's any meat in the rest of the article. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 01:20, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
===Part 4 - PRESSURES TO INHIBIT INQUIRY AND PROBLEM SOLVING=== | ===Part 4 - PRESSURES TO INHIBIT INQUIRY AND PROBLEM SOLVING=== | ||
===Part 5 - DANGERS FOR SCIENCE AND SOCIETY - CONCLUSION=== | ===Part 5 - DANGERS FOR SCIENCE AND SOCIETY - CONCLUSION=== | ||