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* [[George W. Bush]] ignored a number of [[Pre-9/11 warnings|warnings]] about the imminent likelihood of terrorist attacks on US soil
 
* [[George W. Bush]] ignored a number of [[Pre-9/11 warnings|warnings]] about the imminent likelihood of terrorist attacks on US soil
 
* The [[Bush Jr. administration|administration]] has displayed a complete lack of interest in (indeed, antipathy toward [http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/070906terroristrecruiters.htm]) resolving any of the noted irregularities
 
* The [[Bush Jr. administration|administration]] has displayed a complete lack of interest in (indeed, antipathy toward [http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2006/070906terroristrecruiters.htm]) resolving any of the noted irregularities
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* Evidence from Ground Zero was rapidly hauled off and disposed of; comparatively little of it was retained for forensic examination (some obvious reasons for this suggest themselves, but we are not currently aware of any official explanation), leaving crucial questions unanswered which might otherwise have laid to rest
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* Evidence from Ground Zero was rapidly hauled off and disposed of; comparatively little of it was retained for forensic examination (some obvious reasons for this suggest themselves, but we are not currently aware of any official explanation), leaving crucial questions unanswered which might otherwise have laid to rest (One official comment is [http://911review.com/coverup/obstruction.html here])
 
* The impacted section of the Pentagon had just undergone an extensive refit to harden it against impact damage, and was not fully occupied
 
* The impacted section of the Pentagon had just undergone an extensive refit to harden it against impact damage, and was not fully occupied
 
* [[George W. Bush]]'s brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Center, Dulles Airport and United Airlines [http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm]
 
* [[George W. Bush]]'s brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Center, Dulles Airport and United Airlines [http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0204-06.htm]

Revision as of 16:58, 21 January 2007

Overview

A number of irregularities have been pointed out regarding the events of the 9/11 attacks, mainly along the lines of objections to the official story as given by the 9/11 Commission. Unfortunately, although many of these are reasonable, a number of very unlikely scenarios have also been suggested and widely circulated, causing many people to overlook the more reasonable objections to the official story.

At this point, the basic facts are not yet clear enough to begin trying to piece together any kind of coherent picture of what, if any, common cause (e.g. conspiracies) might be behind the various irregularities; once each item has been more thoroughly investigated and can reasonably be judged as either "reasonable" or "dismissable", we can start trying to piece together a larger picture.

The List

Note: One good litmus test for classifying an anomaly as an objection, as opposed to circumstantial evidence, is the presence of a clear contradiction between what someone (including official reports) says or does versus what they should have said or done given the information available. The objection does not have to explain the discrepancy (in order to be valid); it merely seeks an explanation.

Reasonable Objections

  • collapse-related anomalies (see also: wikipedia:Collapse of the World Trade Center):
    • The free-fall, controlled-demolition nature of the collapses of WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7
    • The "squibs" observed in videos of those collapses
    • The fact that WTC7 collapsed at all despite the lack of any significant impacts from aircraft or falling debris, as well as the fact that it too collapsed abruptly and in a way very reminiscent of controlled demolition; compare with WTC5 and WTC6, both of which were hugely damaged by falling debris and fires but remained standing
    • Multiple eyewitness descriptions of explosions, both heard and seen, which do not fit the official "progressive collapse" model [1]
  • Pentagon-related anomalies (see [2])
    • Intense suppression of evidence (especially 3rd-party videos) which might have resolved many questions and allowed inquiry to focus on real issues
    • Odd patterns of activity afterwards (men in office suits moving around debris)
    • Inconsistency between the known piloting skills of the alleged pilot and the apparently difficult maneuver required to turn around and hit the far side of the building from the direction the plane was traveling
    • Why didn't the plane just hit the nearer side of the building? Perhaps this is easily explained, but haven't seen any explanations yet.
  • Discrepancies regarding the identification of the hijackers [3]
  • The fact that George W. Bush remained in a widely-known vulnerable location for the better part of an hour after being told that "America's under attack".

Dismissable Theories

Further Investigation Needed

  • "Third NYC Jet" theories [4]: if true, is probably "circumstantial" at best, but still a loose end worth tying down
  • The alleged pilots of the aircraft in each case were abysmal at flying, based on the testimony of their flying instructors (rebuttal: the twin towers made an easy target; no significant skill required. I've seen rebuttals of this rebuttal elsewhere; must find sources.)
  • Why did the man in the video of Osama bin Laden taking credit for the attacks look utterly unlike him (except superficially)? (Or was the video on Loose Change misdirection? Need to find actual videos.)

Circumstantial Evidence

There is already an alarming amount of circumstantial evidence seemingly connecting the leaders of the United States with the events of 9/11, but this may yet turn out to be a coincidence; people who operate in powerful circles often turn out to have unusual connections with each other.

Nonetheless, in case it turns out to be significant later on, the following circumstantial evidence has been brought up:

  • George W. Bush ignored a number of warnings about the imminent likelihood of terrorist attacks on US soil
  • The administration has displayed a complete lack of interest in (indeed, antipathy toward [5]) resolving any of the noted irregularities
  • Evidence from Ground Zero was rapidly hauled off and disposed of; comparatively little of it was retained for forensic examination (some obvious reasons for this suggest themselves, but we are not currently aware of any official explanation), leaving crucial questions unanswered which might otherwise have laid to rest (One official comment is here)
  • The impacted section of the Pentagon had just undergone an extensive refit to harden it against impact damage, and was not fully occupied
  • George W. Bush's brother Marvin sat on the board of the Kuwaiti-owned company which provided electronic security to the World Trade Center, Dulles Airport and United Airlines [6]
  • George W. Bush found success as a businessman only after the investment of Osama bin Laden's brother Salem and reputed al Qaeda financier Khalid bin Mahfouz (link found here is now 404)
  • George W. Bush's uncle (George H.W. Bush's brother Jonathan Bush is CEO of Riggs Bank N.A. which was found guilty of laundering terrorist funds and fined a US-record $25 million [7] [W]
  • US intelligence used Al Qaeda as an asset ([8] is somewhat murky) U.S. supported al-Qaeda cells during Balkan Wars Macedonian dailies see links between Albanian Rebels and bin Ladin
  • more stuff here to list but I don't have time

Links

Reference

Opinion

Loose Change

Although the Loose Change documentary film raises some valid points, it also has its screws loose in many other ways and should not be taken as representing a summary of reasonable objections to the official story of 9/11.

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