mapping out discussion with Wendy
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Revision as of 18 June 2020 at 13:43.
This is the thread's initial revision.
This is the thread's initial revision.
I think we're agreed on the following points:
- Trans women are women, trans men are men.
- Trans people of all types are (as much as anyone else) entitled to NHS medical treatment, under their direction, to assist with transition and maintenance.
- Actual trans women are not an enemy of cis women.
- The trans legal situation the UK is generally much better than in the US.
- Unlike the US, trans people already have full rights to be recognized as their gender identity. (This includes restrooms and so forth.)
- ...and this may be a cause of some misunderstanding when UK people talk about trans issues on social media.
- "Cis" is not a slur.
Points to be verified/discussed:
- There are people posing as trans women for malicious reasons.
- One example is UK/Karen White.
- The current furor is around the question of whether to expand those laws to give more protections, when they are fine as they are.
- Existing laws also leave loopholes for exploitation by fake trans people.