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I feel saddened by the state of public debate over issues, when point scoring seems to matter more than getting to the heart of an issue and understanding it fully.
 
I feel saddened by the state of public debate over issues, when point scoring seems to matter more than getting to the heart of an issue and understanding it fully.
 
Wikis offer an amazing opportunity to capture the spirit of the quotes below.
 
Wikis offer an amazing opportunity to capture the spirit of the quotes below.
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See [http://issuepedia.org/Wiki_Argument_Structure Wiki Argument Structure] for more details on this effort.
 
I hope to add to Issuepedia to help enhance my own knowledge on interesting issues.
 
I hope to add to Issuepedia to help enhance my own knowledge on interesting issues.
 
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Whats the best way to have a debate about an issue? One can state an opinion/hypothesis and then provide facts that when taken together imply that result. Wiki's offer a great opportunity to debate in a structured format the presented facts and if they support the original opinion.
 
 
Wikipedia offers a good way to evaluate certain events or facts. Due to NPOV ... it is not a good medium for a exploration of the truth of certain arguments. The fact that there is criticism may be listed without examining wether the criticism is valid.
 
 
The page [http://issuepedia.org/Clinton-Barak_Israeli-Palestinian_Peace_offers Clinton-Barak Israeli-Palestinian Peace Offers] is an attempt to explore this issue and create a format for Wiki Arguments.
 
  
 
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I feel saddened by the state of public debate over issues, when point scoring seems to matter more than getting to the heart of an issue and understanding it fully. Wikis offer an amazing opportunity to capture the spirit of the quotes below. See Wiki Argument Structure for more details on this effort. I hope to add to Issuepedia to help enhance my own knowledge on interesting issues.


"I may be wrong and you may be right, and by an effort, we may get closer to the truth" is a motto Karl Popper used for the basis of his critical rationalism in The Myth of the Framework (p. xii.)


"Nothing is a greater help to straighening our own thought than discussion with other people. But that discussion must be by methods very different from those of the propagandist who sets out to convince his opponent by fair means or foul, or of the debater who regards discussion as a kind of warfare in which the aim is victory over an opponent rather than the clearing of one's own mind as well as his. ... to be willing to have their opinions changed by what the other person tells them ... is a necessary condition for the discussion to be of any real value" says Robert Thouless in Straight and Crooked Thinking (p. 162).


When someone puts forward a position in an argument, to be critical here are some questions: What exactly do they mean? Understand their use of language. Is their position true? Is it falsifiable? Would I claim something different? Can I present my thoughts clearly? What facts would cause me to reevaluate my position? Does the reasoning behind our positions fall into any logical/argumentative traps. Can we agree on a few key testible points that can be researched and will verify whose position is better supported. Am I open to changing my opinion on this issue if shown to be wrong?


"But all the use of life is in specific solutions - which cannot be reached through generalities any more than a picture can be painted by knowing some rules of method. They are reached by insight, tact and specific knowledge." wrote Oliver Wendell Holmes.