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* "gay marriage" is a contradiction in terms | * "gay marriage" is a contradiction in terms | ||
** This is a definitional argument, and it often confuses the issue. My understanding is that what gay people want, when they say they want the right to "marry", is the right to the legal recognitions and protections that come with marriage. There is no inherent contradiction to gay people being given those rights and protections, so the speaker who sees a contradiction must be defining "marriage" in some other way. A possible compromise position would be to separate the two – tie the legal rights to a word other than "marriage", and apply that universally. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:28, 16 Feb 2006 (CST) | ** This is a definitional argument, and it often confuses the issue. My understanding is that what gay people want, when they say they want the right to "marry", is the right to the legal recognitions and protections that come with marriage. There is no inherent contradiction to gay people being given those rights and protections, so the speaker who sees a contradiction must be defining "marriage" in some other way. A possible compromise position would be to separate the two – tie the legal rights to a word other than "marriage", and apply that universally. --[[User:Woozle|Woozle]] 08:28, 16 Feb 2006 (CST) | ||
| + | *** Some states (Vermont, California, and Connecticut) have tried this with "Civil Unions" and many proponents of gay marriage say that it is not enough, they want to redefine marriage. Personally, I believe that the governments should remove the term "marriage" from all government regulations and stipulate those rights for all persons as a "Civil Union," leaving marriages to the religious institutions. [[User:Midian|Midian]] 16:33, 28 July 2006 (EDT) | ||
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==Inquiries== | ==Inquiries== | ||
* What arguments can be leveled against gay marriage that cannot be leveled against interracial marriage? (see [[wikipedia:Loving v. Virginia]]; apparently, at the time of this decision, more people were against interracial marriage than are now against gay marriage – not that this proves anything, but it shows how opinion can change given a few decades) | * What arguments can be leveled against gay marriage that cannot be leveled against interracial marriage? (see [[wikipedia:Loving v. Virginia]]; apparently, at the time of this decision, more people were against interracial marriage than are now against gay marriage – not that this proves anything, but it shows how opinion can change given a few decades) | ||
==Links== | ==Links== | ||
* [http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/05/sin-of-sodom.html Little-Known Bible Verses: The Sin of Sodom] was ''not'' homosexuality, but being "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." ([http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel%2016:49&version=31 Ezekiel 16:49, NIV translation]) | * [http://www.daylightatheism.org/2006/05/sin-of-sodom.html Little-Known Bible Verses: The Sin of Sodom] was ''not'' homosexuality, but being "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." ([http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=ezekiel%2016:49&version=31 Ezekiel 16:49, NIV translation]) | ||
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Gay marriage (where "gay" refers to same-sex relationships of any gender; also called "same-sex marriage") is an issue because some people want to do it and some others find it distasteful and/or believe it to be immoral.
Reference
Related Articles
- Gay marriage is a reproductive issue, albeit in a backhanded sort of way
News
- 2006-05-18 Gay marriage ban advances to Senate floor by Bob Geiger at 9:56 AM
- 2006-04-26 A Real Live Brokeback Cowboy by Annie Anderson, In These Times: real-life example of how existing laws are harmful to gay people
- 2006-02-13 Civil partnerships likely to boost health of gay and lesbian people
- 2006-01-21 Maryland Judge throws out law banning gay marriages
- 2005-07-21 Canada becomes 4th nation to allow same-sex marriage
- 2005-07-05 Church of Christ endorses same-sex marriage
- 2005-07-01 Spain legalizes same-sex marriage
Opinion
- A cogent opinion by Orson Scott Card, and related comments by Aeire
- The Family: A Proclamation to the World: the official opinion of the LDS
Arguments and Responses
- "gay marriage" is a contradiction in terms
- This is a definitional argument, and it often confuses the issue. My understanding is that what gay people want, when they say they want the right to "marry", is the right to the legal recognitions and protections that come with marriage. There is no inherent contradiction to gay people being given those rights and protections, so the speaker who sees a contradiction must be defining "marriage" in some other way. A possible compromise position would be to separate the two – tie the legal rights to a word other than "marriage", and apply that universally. --Woozle 08:28, 16 Feb 2006 (CST)
- Some states (Vermont, California, and Connecticut) have tried this with "Civil Unions" and many proponents of gay marriage say that it is not enough, they want to redefine marriage. Personally, I believe that the governments should remove the term "marriage" from all government regulations and stipulate those rights for all persons as a "Civil Union," leaving marriages to the religious institutions. Midian 16:33, 28 July 2006 (EDT)
- This is a definitional argument, and it often confuses the issue. My understanding is that what gay people want, when they say they want the right to "marry", is the right to the legal recognitions and protections that come with marriage. There is no inherent contradiction to gay people being given those rights and protections, so the speaker who sees a contradiction must be defining "marriage" in some other way. A possible compromise position would be to separate the two – tie the legal rights to a word other than "marriage", and apply that universally. --Woozle 08:28, 16 Feb 2006 (CST)
Inquiries
- What arguments can be leveled against gay marriage that cannot be leveled against interracial marriage? (see wikipedia:Loving v. Virginia; apparently, at the time of this decision, more people were against interracial marriage than are now against gay marriage – not that this proves anything, but it shows how opinion can change given a few decades)
Links
- Little-Known Bible Verses: The Sin of Sodom was not homosexuality, but being "arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." (Ezekiel 16:49, NIV translation)