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− | [[category:debates]]This mapping is incomplete; I'm starting with the supporting arguments first. | + | <hide> |
− | : {{arg/main|Reducing the size of government gives people more freedom.}} | + | {{subpage}} |
− | :: {{arg/pro|Government creates burdensome regulations that interfere with people's personal lives.}} | + | [[thing type::debate]] |
− | :: {{arg/pro|Government cannot provide freedom; it can only enslave.}} | + | [[topic::small government]] |
− | : {{arg/ | + | [[category:debates]] |
− | :: {{arg/pro|If government has sufficient resources to provide a living for a significant portion of the population, it also has the resources to deprive people of their rightful property.}} | + | </hide> |
− | : {{arg/ | + | This mapping is incomplete; I'm starting with the supporting arguments first. |
− | :: {{arg/pro|The hidden cost of a government-provided [[social safety-net]] is too high.}} | + | : {{arg/main|Government should be reduced or eliminated.}} |
− | ::: {{arg/pro|If you accept the need for government to have the power to give, you accept the need for government to take without consent.}} | + | :: {{arg/pro|Reducing the size of government gives people more freedom.}} |
− | :::: {{arg/pro| | + | ::: {{arg/pro|Government creates burdensome regulations that interfere with people's personal lives.}} |
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|Government cannot provide freedom; it can only enslave.}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/con|"Reducing the size of government" is an ambiguous phrase that can be interpreted in different ways depending on context, enabling [[position dancing]].}} | ||
+ | :: {{arg/pro|A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have. (literal interpretation)}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|If government has sufficient resources to provide a living for a significant portion of the population, it also has the resources to deprive people of their rightful property.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/con|This is why it is important to have a ''well-run'' government, whatever the size might be.}} | ||
+ | ::::: {{arg/con|Simply reducing funding to an already-despotic government will not make it less despotic, since it already has the ability to take by force that which it needs.}} | ||
+ | ::::: {{arg/con|In the event of diminished funding, established interests will fight to maintain those government activities which benefit them specifically at the expense of others; services which benefit the general public will be cut first, followed closely by those which are merely harmless.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/con|The mere fact that [[any tool can be misused|a tool can be misused]] does not negate the need for the tool.}} | ||
+ | :: {{arg/pro|A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have. (implications)}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|The hidden cost of a government-provided [[social safety-net]] is too high.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/pro|If you accept the need for government to have the power to give, you accept the need for government to take without consent.}} | ||
+ | ::::: {{arg/con|Accepting the need for government revenue does not imply endorsement of taking that revenue by force; there are other ways to collect revenue.}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|People who want a [[social safety-net]] are supporting theft.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/pro|A government-provided social safety-net means that the government takes from some people and gives it to others.}} | ||
+ | ::::: {{arg/pro|Anyone who wants this supports stealing from others.}} | ||
+ | :::::: {{arg/con|This presumes that [[taxation is theft]], which is not true.}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|People who want a [[social safety-net]] are being selfish.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/pro|People who support a social safety-net just want a free ride at the expense of others.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/con|Many people who do not themselves need a social safety-net nonetheless support the existence of one.}} | ||
+ | :: {{arg/pro|Government is unethical because it relies on taxation, which is theft.}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|All government relies on taxation.}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/con|This is not true.}} | ||
+ | ::: {{arg/pro|[[Taxation is theft]]}} | ||
+ | :::: {{arg/pro|Taxation is taking without consent.}} | ||
+ | ::::: {{arg/con|Most people voluntarily pay their taxes.}} | ||
+ | :::::: {{arg/pro|They only do so under threat of imprisonment.}} | ||
+ | ::::::: {{arg/con|There are documented instances of people (a) being happy to pay their taxes, (b) suggesting that taxes for their income bracket should be higher.}} | ||
+ | ::::::: {{arg/con|There are very few instances of people objecting to automatic tax deductions from their paychecks.}} | ||
+ | ::::::: {{arg/con|There are many people for whom this would be an inconsistent position.}} | ||
+ | :::::::: {{arg/con|Anyone who objects to paying taxes would not argue in favor of providing government benefits (such as a social safety-net), and there are certainly plenty of people arguing in favor of providing those benefits.}} | ||
+ | :::::: {{arg/pro|Although most people may voluntarily pay taxes, it is still taking without consent from those who do not.}} | ||
:::: {{arg/pro|Taking without consent is theft.}} | :::: {{arg/pro|Taking without consent is theft.}} | ||
− | + | ::: {{arg/con|If the problem with government is how revenues are collected, the solution is tax-collection reform, not reduction in revenues.}} | |
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Latest revision as of 02:27, 6 December 2012
This mapping is incomplete; I'm starting with the supporting arguments first.
- Government should be reduced or eliminated.
- Reducing the size of government gives people more freedom.
- Government creates burdensome regulations that interfere with people's personal lives.
- Government cannot provide freedom; it can only enslave.
- "Reducing the size of government" is an ambiguous phrase that can be interpreted in different ways depending on context, enabling position dancing.
- A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have. (literal interpretation)
- If government has sufficient resources to provide a living for a significant portion of the population, it also has the resources to deprive people of their rightful property.
- This is why it is important to have a well-run government, whatever the size might be.
- Simply reducing funding to an already-despotic government will not make it less despotic, since it already has the ability to take by force that which it needs.
- In the event of diminished funding, established interests will fight to maintain those government activities which benefit them specifically at the expense of others; services which benefit the general public will be cut first, followed closely by those which are merely harmless.
- The mere fact that a tool can be misused does not negate the need for the tool.
- This is why it is important to have a well-run government, whatever the size might be.
- If government has sufficient resources to provide a living for a significant portion of the population, it also has the resources to deprive people of their rightful property.
- A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have. (implications)
- The hidden cost of a government-provided social safety-net is too high.
- People who want a social safety-net are supporting theft.
- A government-provided social safety-net means that the government takes from some people and gives it to others.
- Anyone who wants this supports stealing from others.
- This presumes that taxation is theft, which is not true.
- Anyone who wants this supports stealing from others.
- A government-provided social safety-net means that the government takes from some people and gives it to others.
- People who want a social safety-net are being selfish.
- Government is unethical because it relies on taxation, which is theft.
- All government relies on taxation.
- Taxation is theft
- Taxation is taking without consent.
- Most people voluntarily pay their taxes.
- They only do so under threat of imprisonment.
- There are documented instances of people (a) being happy to pay their taxes, (b) suggesting that taxes for their income bracket should be higher.
- There are very few instances of people objecting to automatic tax deductions from their paychecks.
- There are many people for whom this would be an inconsistent position.
- Although most people may voluntarily pay taxes, it is still taking without consent from those who do not.
- They only do so under threat of imprisonment.
- Most people voluntarily pay their taxes.
- Taking without consent is theft.
- Taxation is taking without consent.
- If the problem with government is how revenues are collected, the solution is tax-collection reform, not reduction in revenues.
- Reducing the size of government gives people more freedom.