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More study is needed, as there have not yet been any [[proof|proven]] cases of this sort of trolling. There certainly have been cases where people were paid to express certain opinions in open discussion areas, so paid trolls would seem a logical next step. They would be harder to detect, and might be able to get certain topics declared "off-limits" due to their inflammatory nature -- when in fact it is the troll who has been doing most of the inflaming. | More study is needed, as there have not yet been any [[proof|proven]] cases of this sort of trolling. There certainly have been cases where people were paid to express certain opinions in open discussion areas, so paid trolls would seem a logical next step. They would be harder to detect, and might be able to get certain topics declared "off-limits" due to their inflammatory nature -- when in fact it is the troll who has been doing most of the inflaming. | ||
===Examples=== | ===Examples=== | ||
| + | * [http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/12/kwanzaa_cake_maker_confesses.php http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/12/kwanzaa_cake_maker_confesses.php]: comment #2 is obviously a concern troll, though difficult to refute without knowledge of how ''genuine'' low-budget meals should be prepared; comment #9 does a very nice take-down, as does comment #18 (from a somewhat different angle). Fortunately, nobody seems to take the troll too seriously. | ||
* [http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/floor/57243-re-further-left-you-less-you-know-about-economics.html The Further Left You Are the Less You Know About Economics]: "CharlieK" posts a long, rambling argument which is quickly demolished by "Pro Street", who also identifies the post as a troll. "CharlieK" deliberately and clearly distorts "Pro Street"'s rebuttal, which "Pro Street" points out -- but "CharlieK" is allowed to continue his pointless arguing because there is no social mechanism by which other readers can collectively agree that he is being a nuisance. | * [http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/floor/57243-re-further-left-you-less-you-know-about-economics.html The Further Left You Are the Less You Know About Economics]: "CharlieK" posts a long, rambling argument which is quickly demolished by "Pro Street", who also identifies the post as a troll. "CharlieK" deliberately and clearly distorts "Pro Street"'s rebuttal, which "Pro Street" points out -- but "CharlieK" is allowed to continue his pointless arguing because there is no social mechanism by which other readers can collectively agree that he is being a nuisance. | ||
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==Related== | ==Related== | ||
* [[:category:trolling]] | * [[:category:trolling]] | ||
Revision as of 01:41, 20 December 2010
About
A discussion troll (or just "troll" for short) is a person who disrupts a conversation with irrelevant or inflammatory comments with intent to provoke an emotional overreaction from, and/or waste the time and energy of, opposing parties, rather than engage in serious and honest discussion intended to work cooperatively towards arriving at (or closer to) truth. (The act of making such comments is therefore known as trolling, and an individual comment may also be referred to as a "troll".)
This technique is typically found in text-based discussions on the internet (most often in the reader comments on a blog post), where others in the conversation cannot use out-of-band communication (e.g. facial expressions, body language) to reach a consensus as to whether or not trolling has occurred.
Purpose
While some trolls may be in it just for the fun of causing a disruption (the internet equivalent of kicking over an anthill and then retreating to a safe distance), some trolls may be methodically attempting to prevent productive conversations on certain topics -- either because of a personal preference, or because they are being materially compensated for doing so.
More study is needed, as there have not yet been any proven cases of this sort of trolling. There certainly have been cases where people were paid to express certain opinions in open discussion areas, so paid trolls would seem a logical next step. They would be harder to detect, and might be able to get certain topics declared "off-limits" due to their inflammatory nature -- when in fact it is the troll who has been doing most of the inflaming.
Examples
- http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/12/kwanzaa_cake_maker_confesses.php: comment #2 is obviously a concern troll, though difficult to refute without knowledge of how genuine low-budget meals should be prepared; comment #9 does a very nice take-down, as does comment #18 (from a somewhat different angle). Fortunately, nobody seems to take the troll too seriously.
- The Further Left You Are the Less You Know About Economics: "CharlieK" posts a long, rambling argument which is quickly demolished by "Pro Street", who also identifies the post as a troll. "CharlieK" deliberately and clearly distorts "Pro Street"'s rebuttal, which "Pro Street" points out -- but "CharlieK" is allowed to continue his pointless arguing because there is no social mechanism by which other readers can collectively agree that he is being a nuisance.
Related
- category:trolling
- Trolling is a form of intellectual dishonesty.
- Trolling is a form of rhetorical manipulation.