View source for Thread:Talk:Bill Clinton vs. George W. Bush/Children did die under Clinton/reply

The claim being argued against here can be more precisely phrased as: '''Clinton's lies did not result in any deaths.'''

The counter-claims here (in support of the idea that "Yes, Clinton's lies did in fact result in deaths") seem to be:
# Clinton lied about WMDs.
# [[Operation Desert Fox]] was an attempt to distract attention from [[Clinton's bad behavior]].
# Clinton lied under oath.
# Clinton's lying under oath was illegal.
# Clinton's withholding of evidence in the Lewinsky case:
#* was an attempt to impede the process of law
#* forced Lewinksy to submit a false affadavit.
#* allowed Clinton to prolong his own testimony in Jones vs. Clinton.
# Clinton's relationship with Lewinsky proves that he had a past of extramarital affairs.
# Clinton's history of extramarital affairs was crucial evidence for Jones.

Addressing these claims in order:
# To the best of my recollection, Clinton never claimed there were WMDs or used the existence of WMDs as justification for initiating hostilities. Is there evidence that he did?
# Two responses to this:
#* The same people who made this claim at the time later claimed he wasn't serious about going after Osama.
#* Who cares about his stupid extramarital affairs? ''That'' was the distraction -- initiated by the Republicans and spearheaded by [[Newt Gingrich]], hypocrite supreme -- who was having an affair while one of his three wives was in the hospital dying of cancer. Meanwhile, Bill has remained loyal to Hillary -- and she to him -- despite his indescretions; their marriage should be the envy of every "pro-marriage" conservative, not a target for derision. They have absolutely no business criticizing him on that issue -- and even if they had firm moral ground to stand on, ''it's irrelevant'' to the proper running of a country; see [[Talk:Bill Clinton vs. George W. Bush/2006|this discussion]] for more.
# His lying under oath was entirely related to his extramarital affairs, from which no deaths resulted.
# This does not support the claim that Clinton's lies resulted in deaths.
# Neither does this.
# Neither does this.
# Neither does this.

I'm not sure what rational point, if any, the last four items are intended to support; they certainly don't have anything to do with the claim that Clinton's lying (which was entirely about his personal life) resulted in deaths.