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On the subject of deficit spending, you might want to read [http://acandidworld.com/2009/11/19/if-not-the-deficit-then-what/ this].
 
On the subject of deficit spending, you might want to read [http://acandidworld.com/2009/11/19/if-not-the-deficit-then-what/ this].
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===Midian responds===
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[W] "but let's not forget who got us into this mess, if you're going to blame Obama for not getting us out of it fast enough."
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You mean Clinton? [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/26/60minutes/main4546199.shtml] [http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html] [http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Extra/did-clinton-cause-the-banking-crisis.aspx]
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[W] "the problem is that the horrendous array of portable personal weapons currently available is nothing the founding fathers could reasonably have foreseen, and clearly they did not anticipate the social problems caused by such weaponry."
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I disagree. They knew the history of the advent of firearms, and the drastic changes from arrows to flintlocks. I believe they did foresee a future where technological advances would create even more advanced weaponry, and felt the best protection from usurpation would be total freedom for personal defense.
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[W] "The prison system is a huge mess, and needs reform."
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First, reform the laws. No victim-less crime should be punishable. Prostitution, drug possession, etc.
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Second, reform the courts. Any lawyer or judge who attempts to suppress evidence, either for or against a defendant should be disbarred on the spot. The law should rule, not whoever has the most money.
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[W] "I see no need for prisons to be primarily an instrument of punishment"
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What do you consider punishment? To reduce crime we need to reduce recidivism. If over 60% of criminals come back to jail after already spending time there, the current system is not a big enough deterrent.
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====Taxes====
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Constitutional amendment: Income tax imposed on no one with income less than the national average income.
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From that point up, a progressive tax starting at the 0% from the national average. No exemptions, no breaks, no loopholes. If the rich want to cut their taxes, they can get into politics and start by cutting the out-of-control spending in the government.
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As to all the things we agree on, how do we get them implemented? :)

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