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It's clear that Madison was against direct democracy, but his argument as presented doesn't really make sense. How does the Electoral College (or representative democracy in general) make factionalism any less likely?
 
It's clear that Madison was against direct democracy, but his argument as presented doesn't really make sense. How does the Electoral College (or representative democracy in general) make factionalism any less likely?
  
If nothing else, recent election results have shown that Madison's stated goals -- electing the most "fit characters", allowing clear heads to prevail, preventing self-interest from overriding the common good, preventing candidates from fooling the voters through rhetoric, preventing money from ruling the election, and preventing "frivolous claims" (i.e. frivolous arguments, e.g. the argument over Obama's birthplace) from drawing attention away from serious issues -- have all '''utterly failed'''.
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If nothing else, recent election results have shown that Madison's stated goals -- electing the most "fit characters", allowing clear heads to prevail, preventing self-interest from overriding the common good, preventing candidates from fooling the voters through rhetoric, preventing money from ruling the election, and preventing "frivolous claims" (i.e. frivolous arguments, e.g. the argument over [[Barack Obama/birth certificate|Obama's birthplace]]) from drawing attention away from serious issues -- have all '''utterly failed'''.
  
 
The best interpretation I can put on Madison's argument (as given in Federalist #10) is that he wanted decisions to be made by ''communities'' -- groups of people who were able to function together and self-police (weeding out what we would now call "[[discussion troll|troll]]s", not to mention [[sociopath]]s and others not interested in the common good) -- whose sanely-made opinions would then be aggregated to make the final, national choice. Translated into a modern context, this would be an argument for government by social network, not geography -- since these days, people in the same ''neighborhood'' (much less the same state) may not even know each other well enough to know who is sincere and who is trolling.
 
The best interpretation I can put on Madison's argument (as given in Federalist #10) is that he wanted decisions to be made by ''communities'' -- groups of people who were able to function together and self-police (weeding out what we would now call "[[discussion troll|troll]]s", not to mention [[sociopath]]s and others not interested in the common good) -- whose sanely-made opinions would then be aggregated to make the final, national choice. Translated into a modern context, this would be an argument for government by social network, not geography -- since these days, people in the same ''neighborhood'' (much less the same state) may not even know each other well enough to know who is sincere and who is trolling.
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Revision as of 22:15, 17 April 2011

About

The United States Electoral College is the method by which individual votes for US President are aggregated into a final decision.

Although similar systems have been used in other countries, the United States is the only country currently (2011) using this system for electing a chief executive.

how it works

Each state is allocated a number of "electoral votes", based on recent census data. Each state holds an election for President, and the winner of the state election receives all of the state's electoral votes.

origin

The Electoral College is mandated by the US Constitution; it was originally argued for by James Madison in Federalist Paper No. 10.

Conclusions

Will Hively presents Madison's argument this way:

James Madison, chief architect of our nation's electoral college, wanted to protect each citizen against the most insidious tyranny that arises in democracies: the massed power of fellow citizens banded together in a dominant bloc. As Madison explained in The Federalist Papers (Number X), "a well-constructed Union" must, above all else, "break and control the violence of faction," especially "the superior force of an . . . overbearing majority." In any democracy, a majority's power threatens minorities. It threatens their rights, their property, and sometimes their lives.

It's clear that Madison was against direct democracy, but his argument as presented doesn't really make sense. How does the Electoral College (or representative democracy in general) make factionalism any less likely?

If nothing else, recent election results have shown that Madison's stated goals -- electing the most "fit characters", allowing clear heads to prevail, preventing self-interest from overriding the common good, preventing candidates from fooling the voters through rhetoric, preventing money from ruling the election, and preventing "frivolous claims" (i.e. frivolous arguments, e.g. the argument over Obama's birthplace) from drawing attention away from serious issues -- have all utterly failed.

The best interpretation I can put on Madison's argument (as given in Federalist #10) is that he wanted decisions to be made by communities -- groups of people who were able to function together and self-police (weeding out what we would now call "trolls", not to mention sociopaths and others not interested in the common good) -- whose sanely-made opinions would then be aggregated to make the final, national choice. Translated into a modern context, this would be an argument for government by social network, not geography -- since these days, people in the same neighborhood (much less the same state) may not even know each other well enough to know who is sincere and who is trolling.

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