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* '''B''': "Why? It's just an acorn. It's not like I'm hurting you or anything. Is your thinking so unfocused that you can't continue speaking just because an acorn drops on you? What if it just fell from a tree? Would you blame the tree and refuse to continue our discussion? Does this discussion matter so little to you?"
 
* '''B''': "Why? It's just an acorn. It's not like I'm hurting you or anything. Is your thinking so unfocused that you can't continue speaking just because an acorn drops on you? What if it just fell from a tree? Would you blame the tree and refuse to continue our discussion? Does this discussion matter so little to you?"
 
==Examples==
 
==Examples==
* If you aren't bothered by the idea of a [[Muslim]] [[President of the United States|president]], then why do you care if Obama is a [[Barack Obama/Muslim smear|Muslim]] or not? (Used
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* If you aren't bothered by the idea of a [[Muslim]] [[President of the United States|president]], then why do you care if Obama is a [[Barack Obama/Muslim smear|Muslim]] or not?
 
* If you're not bothered by [[communism]]/[[socialism]]/[[Marxism]], then why do you care whether or not they are based on [[atheism]]?
 
* If you're not bothered by [[communism]]/[[socialism]]/[[Marxism]], then why do you care whether or not they are based on [[atheism]]?
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==Notes==
 
==Notes==
 
This topic was inspired by a discussion on [http://www.blaghag.com/2010/09/ive-forgotten-what-its-like-being-token.html Blag Hag].
 
This topic was inspired by a discussion on [http://www.blaghag.com/2010/09/ive-forgotten-what-its-like-being-token.html Blag Hag].

Revision as of 16:23, 18 September 2010

About

Throwing acorns is a form of rhetorical manipulation in which an irrelevant attack is used as a distraction to throw the discussion onto ground where the attacker is more able to defend their position. It is used in cases where one party has a strong point to make, and the other party wishes that point to appear much weaker.

It most often takes the form of a "why do you care" question, thus shifting the topic to the question of why the defender cares about the irrelevant attack, though other forms are presumably possible.

Form

The technique usually follows a pattern like this:

  • A advocates a particular point
  • B attacks the point with an irrelevant but false claim
  • A refutes the claim
  • B: "Why do you care if [false claim] is false, if it's irrelevant?"

This is much like the following situation:

  • A tries to start serious discussion.
  • B throws acorn at A.
  • A: "Stop throwing acorns at me!"
  • B: "Why? It's just an acorn. It's not like I'm hurting you or anything. Is your thinking so unfocused that you can't continue speaking just because an acorn drops on you? What if it just fell from a tree? Would you blame the tree and refuse to continue our discussion? Does this discussion matter so little to you?"

Examples

Notes

This topic was inspired by a discussion on Blag Hag.