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==Introduction==
 
==Introduction==
[[category:argumenticons]][[Issuepedia:Argumenticons|Argumenticons]] are kind of like [[wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] for showing the structure of an argument or discussion.{{seedling}}
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[[category:debaticons]][[Issuepedia:Debaticons|Debaticons]] are like [[wikipedia:emoticons|emoticons]] for showing the [[structured debate|structure of an argument or discussion]]. In much the same way a "smiley" or "frowny" emoticon is a graphical shorthand to indicate happiness or unhappiness with a statement, debaticons are graphical shorthands to indicate a given statement's position with respect to the overall debate.
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See [[Issuepedia:Structured Debate]] for details on how debaticons are used in the context of Issuepedia's proposed rules.
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==Icons==
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===key icons===
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: [[File:Arrow-button-rt-25px.png|15px]] '''Main point / claim'''
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: [[File:Arrow-button-up-25px.png|15px]] '''Supporting point'''
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: [[File:Arrow-button-dn-25px.png|15px]] '''Counterpoint'''
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: [[File:Arrow-button-i-20px.png|15px]] '''Information''' stipulated by both sides, or from an agreed-on authority
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===auxiliary===
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It's less certain how useful these will be; possibly handy for experimentation.
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: [[File:Button-quote.png]][[File:Button-unquote.png]] quote open/close; see [[Template:Arg/quote]]
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: [[File:Button-check-20px.png|15px]] possibly statements posted by one side and agreed by the other (where the "I" debaticon indicates items agreed to ''before''hand)
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:* "X" icons, generally intended to indicate some clear error or misuse (e.g. a [[logical fallacy]] or factual error):
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:: [[File:Button-green-X.20px.png|15px]] discovery of error supports main claim; see [[Template:Arg/support/fact]]
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:: [[File:Button-red-X.20px.png|15px]] discovery of error weakens main claim; see [[Template:Arg/counter/fact]]
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: [[File:Button-e!-20px.png|15px]] '''Error''': early, less-clear version of red X icon
 
==Related Pages==
 
==Related Pages==
* the [[:category:argumenticons|argumenticons]] category is where we will keep all our argumenticon images and templates
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* the [[:category:debaticons|debaticons]] category is where we will keep all our debaticon images and templates
 
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==Examples==
==Example==
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:{{arg/main|Stuff exists!}}
For practical use, we'll have templates... but here is an example of the general idea, for now:
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::{{arg/support|Indeed, surveys show that nothing could be more true!}}
:<linkedimage>
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::{{arg/counter|That is an utter load of foetid dingo's kidneys!}}
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
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:::{{arg/support|Even if stuff is a load of foetid dingo's kidneys, foetid dingo's kidneys do in fact exist and therefore so does stuff!}}
tooltip=newpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-rt-25px.png
 
img_alt=right arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage> '''Stuff exists!'''
 
::<linkedimage>
 
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=supportpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-up-20px.png
 
img_alt=up arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage> Indeed, nothing could be more true!
 
::<linkedimage>
 
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=counterpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-dn-20px.png
 
img_alt=down arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage> That is an utter load of foetid dingo's kidneys!
 
:::<linkedimage>
 
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=minor supportpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-up-15px.png
 
img_alt=up arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage> Even if stuff is a load of foetid dingo's kidneys, foetid dingo's kidneys do in fact exist and therefore so does stuff!
 
 
 
The same thing, with templates:
 
:{{arg.newpoint|Stuff exists!}}
 
::{{arg.supportpoint|Indeed, surveys show that nothing could be more true!}}
 
::{{arg.counterpoint|That is an utter load of foetid dingo's kidneys!}}
 
:::{{arg.supportpoint|Even if stuff is a load of foetid dingo's kidneys, foetid dingo's kidneys do in fact exist and therefore so does stuff!}}
 
  
I'm going to leave all the support/counter icons the same size for now, at least until it becomes clear that we have a use for the other sizes.
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: {{arg/main|Stuff made by Big Phatt Lyar Industries is better than the stuff made by Quality Products, Inc.}}
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:: {{arg/support|A spokesman for Bigg Phatt Lyar Industries said:}} {{arg/quote|Our products are absolutely the finest quality of any products anywhere, so there is no need for people to go criticizing them. Criticism hampers quality control, which only harms the consumer.}}
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::: {{arg/counter|A company spokesman would probably say that whether or not it was true.}}
 
===Rules===
 
===Rules===
Points are '''supporting''' (<linkedimage>
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Points are '''supporting''' ([[File:Arrow-button-up-25px.png|15px]]) if they support the current '''main point''' ([[File:Arrow-button-rt-25px.png|15px]]). If a point supports the current '''counterpoint''' ([[File:Arrow-button-dn-15px.png]]), then it is also a counterpoint. If it argues ''against'' the current '''counterpoint''', then it is a '''supporting point'''. (This way you don't have to go up through the levels counting in order to figure out which "side" a point is on.)
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=minor supportpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-up-15px.png
 
img_alt=up arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage>) if they support the current '''new point''' (<linkedimage>
 
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=newpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-rt-15px.png
 
img_alt=right arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage>). If a point supports the current '''counterpoint''' (<linkedimage>
 
wikipage=Issuepedia:Argumenticons
 
tooltip=counterpoint
 
img_src=Image:Arrow-button-dn-15px.png
 
img_alt=down arrow argumenticon
 
</linkedimage>), then it is also a counterpoint. If it argues ''against'' the current '''counterpoint''', then it is a '''supporting point'''.
 

Latest revision as of 19:08, 18 August 2009

Introduction

Debaticons are like emoticons for showing the structure of an argument or discussion. In much the same way a "smiley" or "frowny" emoticon is a graphical shorthand to indicate happiness or unhappiness with a statement, debaticons are graphical shorthands to indicate a given statement's position with respect to the overall debate.

See Issuepedia:Structured Debate for details on how debaticons are used in the context of Issuepedia's proposed rules.

Icons

key icons

Arrow-button-rt-25px.png Main point / claim
Arrow-button-up-25px.png Supporting point
Arrow-button-dn-25px.png Counterpoint
Arrow-button-i-20px.png Information stipulated by both sides, or from an agreed-on authority

auxiliary

It's less certain how useful these will be; possibly handy for experimentation.

Button-quote.pngButton-unquote.png quote open/close; see Template:Arg/quote
Button-check-20px.png possibly statements posted by one side and agreed by the other (where the "I" debaticon indicates items agreed to beforehand)
  • "X" icons, generally intended to indicate some clear error or misuse (e.g. a logical fallacy or factual error):
Button-green-X.20px.png discovery of error supports main claim; see Template:Arg/support/fact
Button-red-X.20px.png discovery of error weakens main claim; see Template:Arg/counter/fact
Button-e!-20px.png Error: early, less-clear version of red X icon

Related Pages

  • the debaticons category is where we will keep all our debaticon images and templates

Examples

right-arrow debaticon Stuff exists!
up-arrow debaticon Indeed, surveys show that nothing could be more true!
down-arrow debaticon That is an utter load of foetid dingo's kidneys!
up-arrow debaticon Even if stuff is a load of foetid dingo's kidneys, foetid dingo's kidneys do in fact exist and therefore so does stuff!
right-arrow debaticon Stuff made by Big Phatt Lyar Industries is better than the stuff made by Quality Products, Inc.
up-arrow debaticon A spokesman for Bigg Phatt Lyar Industries said: quote debaticon Our products are absolutely the finest quality of any products anywhere, so there is no need for people to go criticizing them. Criticism hampers quality control, which only harms the consumer. Button-unquote.png
down-arrow debaticon A company spokesman would probably say that whether or not it was true.

Rules

Points are supporting (Arrow-button-up-25px.png) if they support the current main point (Arrow-button-rt-25px.png). If a point supports the current counterpoint (Arrow-button-dn-15px.png), then it is also a counterpoint. If it argues against the current counterpoint, then it is a supporting point. (This way you don't have to go up through the levels counting in order to figure out which "side" a point is on.)