View source for 2004-02-15 Homosexual Marriage and Civilization

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[[title/short::Homosexual Marriage and Civilization]]
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* '''when''': [[when posted::2004-02-15]]
* '''author''': [[author::Orson Scott Card]]
* '''source''': [[site::The Ornery American]]
* '''topics''': [[topic::arguments against gay marriage]]
* '''link''': [[URL::https://web.archive.org/web/20210928134807/http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html]]
** The [http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2004-02-15-1.html original URL] seems to have been taken down or moved sometime between 2021-09-28 and 2021-11-11.
* '''title''': [[title::Homosexual "Marriage" and Civilization]]
* '''summary''': [[Summary::&ldquo;...anyone who has any understanding of how America &ndash; or any civilization &ndash; works... will realize that this new diktat of the courts [in support of [[gay marriage]]] will not have any of the intended effects, while the unintended effects are likely to be [[gay marriage will destroy society|devastating]].&rdquo;]]
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<p>Regardless of their opinion of homosexual "marriage," every American who believes in democracy should be outraged that any court should take it upon itself to dictate such a social innovation without recourse to democratic process.</p>

<p>And we all know the course this thing will follow. Anyone who [[anti-gay|opposes]] this edict will be branded a bigot; any schoolchild who questions the legitimacy of homosexual marriage will be expelled for "hate speech." The fanatical Left will insist that anyone who upholds the fundamental meaning that [[marriage/history|marriage has always had, everywhere]], until this generation, is a "homophobe" and therefore mentally ill.</p>

<p>Which is the modern [[Jacobin]] equivalent of crying, "Off with their heads!"</p>

<p>We will once again be performing a potentially devastating [[social experiment]] on ourselves without any attempt to predict the consequences and find out if the American people actually want them.</p>

<p>But anyone who has any understanding of how America &ndash; or any civilization &ndash; works, of the forces already at play, will realize that this new diktat of the courts will not have any of the intended effects, while the unintended effects are likely to be [[gay marriage will destroy society|devastating]].</p>
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This is the original and now-infamous OSC rant against gay marriage, but not the last.

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===Commentary===
* '''2005-04-02'''
** [http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20050402.html comments by webcomic artist Aeire] ([https://web.archive.org/web/20211205140129/http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20050402.html archive.org], [https://archive.ph/lsoIS archive.ph])
*** [https://archive.ph/OdIaj forum posting]</s> attempting to explain and reconcile Card's position with those of Aeire and others. Starts with a post by a practicing [[Mormon]] who explains the Mormon views on sex and gender. Gets sidetracked on condemning [[Bill Clinton|Clinton]] as being worse than [[Richard Nixon|Nixon]]... long post, with many responses.
**** (original URL: http://forums.keenspot.com/viewtopic.php?t=75430 - no copies on archive.org)
** [http://web.archive.org/web/20051025153309/http://www.aeire.com/postings/1112515182.shtml Oy. (On Card and misinterpretations)] by Aeire, continuing the dialog

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