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<p>nothing like [[science]] for giving that objective, white-coat flavoured legitimacy to your prejudices, so it must have been a great day for ''Telegraph'' readers when they came across the headline "[http://current.com/items/90259840_women-who-dress-provocatively-more-likely-to-be-raped-claim-scientists.htm Women who dress provocatively more likely to be raped, claim scientists]". Ah, scientists. "Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped, claim scientists at the University of Leicester." Well there you go. Oddly, though, the title of the press release for the same research was "Promiscuous men more likely to rape".</p>
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* '''topics''': [[topic::sexism]] [[topic::gender inequity]] [[topic::science reporting]] [[topic::bad journalism]] [[topic::Telegraph.co.uk]] [[topic::University of Leicester]]
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* '''summary''': [[Summary::There's nothing like [[science]] for giving that [[objective]], white-coat flavoured legitimacy to your prejudices, so it must have been a great day for ''Telegraph'' readers when they came across the headline "[http://current.com/items/90259840_women-who-dress-provocatively-more-likely-to-be-raped-claim-scientists.htm Women who dress provocatively more likely to be raped, claim scientists]". Ah, scientists.]]
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<p>There's nothing like [[science]] for giving that objective, white-coat flavoured legitimacy to your prejudices, so it must have been a great day for ''Telegraph'' readers when they came across the headline "[http://current.com/items/90259840_women-who-dress-provocatively-more-likely-to-be-raped-claim-scientists.htm Women who dress provocatively more likely to be raped, claim scientists]". Ah, scientists. "Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped, claim scientists at the University of Leicester." Well there you go. Oddly, though, the title of the press release for the same research was "Promiscuous men more likely to rape".</p>
  
 
<p>Normally we berate journalists for rewriting press releases. Had ''the Telegraph'' found some news?</p>
 
<p>Normally we berate journalists for rewriting press releases. Had ''the Telegraph'' found some news?</p>
  
<p>I rang Sophia Shaw at the University of Leicester. She was surprised to have been presented as an expert scientist on the pages of the Daily Telegraph, as Sophia is an MSc student, and this is her dissertation project. also not finished. "We are intending on getting it published, but my findings are very preliminary." She was discussing her dissertation at an academic conference, when the British Psychological PR team picked it up, and put out a press release. We will discuss that later.</p>
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<p>I rang Sophia Shaw at the University of Leicester. She was surprised to have been presented as an expert scientist on the pages of the ''Daily Telegraph'', as Sophia is an MSc student, and this is her dissertation project. It's also not finished. "We are intending on getting it published, but my findings are very preliminary." She was discussing her dissertation at an academic conference, when the British Psychological Society's PR team picked it up, and put out a press release. We will discuss that later.</p>
  
<p>But first, the science. Shaw spoke to about 100 men, presenting them with various situations around being with a woman, and asking them when they would call it a night, in order to explore attitudes towards coercing women into sex. "very aware that there are limitations to my study. self report data about sensitive issues, so got its flaws, participants were answering when sober, and so on."</p>
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<p>But first, the science. Shaw spoke to about 100 men, presenting them with various situations around being with a woman, and asking them when they would call it a night, in order to explore men's attitudes towards coercing women into sex. "I'm very aware that there are limitations to my study. It's self report data about sensitive issues, so that's got its flaws, participants were answering when sober, and so on."</p>
  
 
<p>But more than that, she told me, every single one of the first four statements made by ''the Telegraph'' is a flat, unambiguous, factually incorrect misrepresentation of her findings.</p>
 
<p>But more than that, she told me, every single one of the first four statements made by ''the Telegraph'' is a flat, unambiguous, factually incorrect misrepresentation of her findings.</p>
  
 
<p>Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped?  "We found no evidence that that women who are more outgoing are more likely to be raped, this is completely inaccurate, we found no difference whatsoever. The alcohol thing is also completely wrong: if anything, we found that men reported they were willing to go further with women who are completely sober."</p>
 
<p>Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped?  "We found no evidence that that women who are more outgoing are more likely to be raped, this is completely inaccurate, we found no difference whatsoever. The alcohol thing is also completely wrong: if anything, we found that men reported they were willing to go further with women who are completely sober."</p>
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Latest revision as of 22:55, 9 November 2019

There's nothing like science for giving that objective, white-coat flavoured legitimacy to your prejudices, so it must have been a great day for Telegraph readers when they came across the headline "Women who dress provocatively more likely to be raped, claim scientists". Ah, scientists. "Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped, claim scientists at the University of Leicester." Well there you go. Oddly, though, the title of the press release for the same research was "Promiscuous men more likely to rape".

Normally we berate journalists for rewriting press releases. Had the Telegraph found some news?

I rang Sophia Shaw at the University of Leicester. She was surprised to have been presented as an expert scientist on the pages of the Daily Telegraph, as Sophia is an MSc student, and this is her dissertation project. It's also not finished. "We are intending on getting it published, but my findings are very preliminary." She was discussing her dissertation at an academic conference, when the British Psychological Society's PR team picked it up, and put out a press release. We will discuss that later.

But first, the science. Shaw spoke to about 100 men, presenting them with various situations around being with a woman, and asking them when they would call it a night, in order to explore men's attitudes towards coercing women into sex. "I'm very aware that there are limitations to my study. It's self report data about sensitive issues, so that's got its flaws, participants were answering when sober, and so on."

But more than that, she told me, every single one of the first four statements made by the Telegraph is a flat, unambiguous, factually incorrect misrepresentation of her findings.

Women who drink alcohol, wear short skirts and are outgoing are more likely to be raped? "We found no evidence that that women who are more outgoing are more likely to be raped, this is completely inaccurate, we found no difference whatsoever. The alcohol thing is also completely wrong: if anything, we found that men reported they were willing to go further with women who are completely sober."