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| − | [[category:US | + | This page is about ways in which the [[US]] has behaved dishonorably. |
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==The List== | ==The List== | ||
===Agreed Items=== | ===Agreed Items=== | ||
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* two centuries of slavery | * two centuries of slavery | ||
* a further century of [[apartheid]] ([[Jim Crow]] laws, [[separate but equal]]...) | * a further century of [[apartheid]] ([[Jim Crow]] laws, [[separate but equal]]...) | ||
| − | * internment of Japanese-descended American citizens during [[World War II]] | + | * [[Japanese American internment|internment of Japanese-descended American citizens]] during [[World War II]] |
| + | ** the round-up was [https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/confirmed-the-us-census-b/ apparently aided by confidential census information] | ||
* the [[genocide of the American Indians]] | * the [[genocide of the American Indians]] | ||
| + | ** [[Indian Removal Act]] | ||
| + | * [[McCarthyism]] | ||
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====foreign==== | ====foreign==== | ||
| + | These items also fall into the category of [[American imperialism]], something which [[US conservatism|conservatives]] generally deny exists. | ||
* [[George H.W. Bush]] urging [[Iraq]]i Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that [[1991 Gulf War|we were "on our way"]] and would protect them, and then backing off – thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2007/09/freshly-back-from-china-and-japan-where.html] | * [[George H.W. Bush]] urging [[Iraq]]i Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that [[1991 Gulf War|we were "on our way"]] and would protect them, and then backing off – thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2007/09/freshly-back-from-china-and-japan-where.html] | ||
| − | ** "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, 1991-02-15, on the Voice of America; sources: [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/05/cp.00.html CNN], [[google:cache:traprockpeace.org/scr1441hurd.doc+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [[google:cache:mondediplo.com/2004/11/02iraq+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [http://books.google.com/books?id=r01JOuwdf2oC&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22there+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop+and+that+is+for+the+iraqi+military%22&source=web&ots=GYW0RodERI&sig=KzaFf5YfvySCEojYnsgW1k8kT9s here], [http://blog.neo-libertarian.com/posts/1174764633.shtml here], and {{wikipedia|1991 uprisings in Iraq}} but mysteriously missing from the [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?year=1991&month=2 George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991] (a [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?submit=Search&search=Voice+of+America search for "Voice of America"] also does not find it). | + | ** "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, {{date|1991-02-15}}, on the Voice of America; sources: [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/05/cp.00.html CNN], [[google:cache:traprockpeace.org/scr1441hurd.doc+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [[google:cache:mondediplo.com/2004/11/02iraq+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [http://books.google.com/books?id=r01JOuwdf2oC&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22there+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop+and+that+is+for+the+iraqi+military%22&source=web&ots=GYW0RodERI&sig=KzaFf5YfvySCEojYnsgW1k8kT9s here], [http://blog.neo-libertarian.com/posts/1174764633.shtml here], and {{wikipedia|1991 uprisings in Iraq}} but mysteriously missing from the [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?year=1991&month=2 George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991] (a [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?submit=Search&search=Voice+of+America search for "Voice of America"] also does not find it). |
** further reading: ''The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East'' by Robert Fisk [http://www.amazon.com/Great-War-Civilisation-Conquest-Middle/dp/1400075173/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4630502-8796617 Amazon] (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party) | ** further reading: ''The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East'' by Robert Fisk [http://www.amazon.com/Great-War-Civilisation-Conquest-Middle/dp/1400075173/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4630502-8796617 Amazon] (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party) | ||
| − | + | * '''1954''': {{l/wp|1954 Guatemalan coup d'état}} "a covert operation carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution of 1944–1954. Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, it installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed [[authoritarian]] rulers in Guatemala." | |
| − | ===To Be Researched=== | + | * '''1953''': Overthrowing the [[democratic]]ally-elected leader of [[Iran]], [[Mohammed Mosaddeq]] (or Mosaddegh or Mossadegh), and replacing him with a compliant monarch (the Shah), because we wanted more control over Iranian oil |
| + | ** '''2013-04-18''' [http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2013/04/17/the-boston-bombing-and-self-awareness/ The Boston Bombing and Self-Awareness] | ||
| + | =====To Be Researched===== | ||
* starting two wars with Mexico | * starting two wars with Mexico | ||
* Spanish-American war | * Spanish-American war | ||
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** "[[wikisource:The War Prayer|The War Prayer]]", a short piece by [[Mark Twain]], was apparently written in outraged reaction to the US intervention in the Philippines (is this the same thing as the "conquest"?) | ** "[[wikisource:The War Prayer|The War Prayer]]", a short piece by [[Mark Twain]], was apparently written in outraged reaction to the US intervention in the Philippines (is this the same thing as the "conquest"?) | ||
* conquest of the Sandwich Islands | * conquest of the Sandwich Islands | ||
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* training the Savak | * training the Savak | ||
* overthrowing the Arbenz government | * overthrowing the Arbenz government | ||
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* supplying the PKI's membership list to our new puppet government so that a half million Indonesians could be killed | * supplying the PKI's membership list to our new puppet government so that a half million Indonesians could be killed | ||
** [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB52/ NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE _ STATE HISTORIANS CONCLUDE U.S. PASSED NAMES OF COMMUNISTS TO INDONESIAN ARMY, WHICH KILLED AT LEAST 105,000 IN 1965-66 ] | ** [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB52/ NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE _ STATE HISTORIANS CONCLUDE U.S. PASSED NAMES OF COMMUNISTS TO INDONESIAN ARMY, WHICH KILLED AT LEAST 105,000 IN 1965-66 ] | ||
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* supplying the Indonesian government weapons so that they could invade and terrorize East-Timor for twenty years | * supplying the Indonesian government weapons so that they could invade and terrorize East-Timor for twenty years | ||
* training death squads and torturers at the [[School of the Americas]] (now renamed) | * training death squads and torturers at the [[School of the Americas]] (now renamed) | ||
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* overthrowing the Aristide government - twice | * overthrowing the Aristide government - twice | ||
* attempting to overthrow the Chavez government ([[Venezuela]]) | * attempting to overthrow the Chavez government ([[Venezuela]]) | ||
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| + | ==Links== | ||
| + | ===Lists=== | ||
| + | * '''2020-03-20''' [https://web.archive.org/web/20200921005437/https://jakimfett.com/status-report/maga-no-america-was-never-great/ America Was Never Great] | ||
| + | * [http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO IRAQ: A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS] by Dr. Zoltan Grossman: not all of these were dishonorable, but certainly many of them were -- and all probably qualify as US "chickens coming home to roost" | ||
| + | ===to file=== | ||
| + | * '''2016-08-28''' [https://theintercept.com/2016/08/28/colin-kaepernick-is-righter-than-you-know-the-national-anthem-is-a-celebration-of-slavery/ Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know: The National Anthem Is a Celebration of Slavery] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/+CindyBrown/posts/jZBUxNBcMk4 via]) | ||
| + | * '''2008-08-14''' [http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/08/15/567667/-The-Great-California-Genocide The Great California Genocide] | ||
| + | {{links/news}} | ||
Latest revision as of 16:04, 17 October 2022
About
This page is about ways in which the US has behaved dishonorably.
The List
Agreed Items
domestic
- two centuries of slavery
- a further century of apartheid (Jim Crow laws, separate but equal...)
- internment of Japanese-descended American citizens during World War II
- the round-up was apparently aided by confidential census information
- the genocide of the American Indians
- McCarthyism
foreign
These items also fall into the category of American imperialism, something which conservatives generally deny exists.
- George H.W. Bush urging Iraqi Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that we were "on our way" and would protect them, and then backing off – thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [1]
- "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, 1991-02-15, on the Voice of America; sources: CNN, here, here, here, here, and Wikipedia but mysteriously missing from the George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991 (a search for "Voice of America" also does not find it).
- further reading: The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East by Robert Fisk Amazon (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party)
- 1954: 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état "a covert operation carried out by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that deposed the democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Árbenz and ended the Guatemalan Revolution of 1944–1954. Code-named Operation PBSUCCESS, it installed the military dictatorship of Carlos Castillo Armas, the first in a series of U.S.-backed authoritarian rulers in Guatemala."
- 1953: Overthrowing the democratically-elected leader of Iran, Mohammed Mosaddeq (or Mosaddegh or Mossadegh), and replacing him with a compliant monarch (the Shah), because we wanted more control over Iranian oil
- 2013-04-18 The Boston Bombing and Self-Awareness
To Be Researched
- starting two wars with Mexico
- Spanish-American war
- conquest of the Philippines
- "The War Prayer", a short piece by Mark Twain, was apparently written in outraged reaction to the US intervention in the Philippines (is this the same thing as the "conquest"?)
- conquest of the Sandwich Islands
- training the Savak
- overthrowing the Arbenz government
- overthrowing the Allende government
- killing three million Vietnamese (see Vietnam War)
- supplying the PKI's membership list to our new puppet government so that a half million Indonesians could be killed
- supplying the Indonesian government weapons so that they could invade and terrorize East-Timor for twenty years
- training death squads and torturers at the School of the Americas (now renamed)
- financing and training the Contras in Nicaragua
- financing and training the death squads in El Salvador
- overthrowing the Aristide government - twice
- attempting to overthrow the Chavez government (Venezuela)
Links
Lists
- 2020-03-20 America Was Never Great
- FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO IRAQ: A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS by Dr. Zoltan Grossman: not all of these were dishonorable, but certainly many of them were -- and all probably qualify as US "chickens coming home to roost"
to file
- 2016-08-28 Colin Kaepernick Is Righter Than You Know: The National Anthem Is a Celebration of Slavery (via)
- 2008-08-14 The Great California Genocide
Related
- 2014/04/08 [L..T] America's Coup Machine: Destroying Democracy Since 1953 «To place the coup in Ukraine in historical context, this is at least the 80th time the United States has organized a coup or a failed coup in a foreign country since 1953.»