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Overview
By the time the second plane hit, a large number of cameras were already pointed at the twin towers, making the second impact and subsequent collapses almost certainly the most thoroughly-filmed disaster of all time, if not the most thoroughly-filmed event. This has provided something of a counterbalance to the extremely poor conduct of the official post-collapse investigations, but has also opened many questions which may never be answered satisfactorily.
The unusualness of this is highlighted by the fact that the cost of video-recording technology had been decreasing substantially in the years leading up to the event; video recording of major disasters (with substantial survivorship, anyway) is likely to be more and more thorough as time goes by due to the continued price drops and the growing ubiquity of new devices such as video cell phones and video-capable PDAs.
Related Pages
Some major videos:
Videos
Collections
- A collection of real-time recordings from news channels the morning of 9/11:
- 9-11 WTC Videos at 9-11 Research: collapses, witnesses; no impact videos
WTC1 Impact
- the NYFD documentary video: best view; was the only known video for quite some time after the event:
- very brief view across the water (does anyone know where this video came from?):
- There is a third video, a slightly longer but shakier glimpse of the plane and impact; only upload found so far combines it with other stuff:
- "rare amateur 9/11 videos": includes yet a third angle on the 1st plane, briefly and from a distance
WTC2 Impact
- 2nd plane, side view, impact not visible
- 2nd plane, side view, impact not visible
- 2nd plane, side view, impact not visible
- 2nd plane: north tower blocking south tower
- 2nd plane: ABC7, north tower blocking south tower
- 2nd plane: CNN, impact side, from ground; also CNN side-view (impact visible) from ground
- 2nd plane: distant zoom shot, over Brooklyn Bridge; camera is zoomed out at moment of impact; includes several minutes of footage after the impact, showing that the amount of smoke is clearly decreasing
2nd plane(removed for terms-of-use violation as of 2008-04-27) (8 seconds)- 2nd plane: (no logo) close view of impact, from ground, to left of tower (8 seconds)
- explosions in WTC1 as plane hits WTC2
- 2nd plane - CNN
- 2nd plane "rare"
- 2nd plane - quite close, to left of impact
- 2nd plane - similar angle; same video?
- 2nd plane - another home video
- 2nd plane - CNN, magnified and sharpened; 15 seconds
- 2nd plane, distant right-side view (short)
- looks same: youtube:odAcBR_QUM4 "banned" footage
"raw footage" not exactly(video "removed by user" as of 2008-04-27): same WTC2 impact scene as recorded from multiple TV feeds, followed by some different angles- NBC4 Live Video vs. CNN "Anonymous Contributor" Video: perplexingly, the first video (NBC4) shows no plane, despite being shot from higher and more or less the same view as the CNN video, which clearly does show it. The CNN video is shot from significantly to the right, however (check the location of the wide black building vs. the twin towers), so possibly the plane was hidden behind the towers and smoke in the NBC video. Is this the source of the "no-plane theories"?
- Two Live Shots vs Two Fake 911 Hoax Videos: 4 frames, synched within about 1 second; one of the no-plane frames is the NBC4 video above, and the other no-plane frame is from pretty much the exact same angle. Any different angles showing no plane?
- Zooming in on the 911 Hoax: Four Shots Contrasted Analyzed: shows where the plane is in the NBC4 and WB11 videos; adds 2 other videos which it claims are faked, but this conclusion seems based on very tenuous evidence which isn't examined.
allegations of fakery
video alleging fakery in CNN shot of WTC2 collision(removed for terms-of-use violation as of 2008-04-27), with supporting evidence worth looking at
WTC2 Collapse
- WTC2 collapsing: the "oh my god" video
- shows close-up of molten metal pouring out near corner seconds before collapse
- "molten metal" identified as South Tower (brief; no collapse)
- "9/11 WTC south tower collapse amateur video": Dr. Mark Heath. Good shots of debris cloud as it engulfs the narrator. Rather blurry overall. Lots of footage of trampling through the dust. Weird insect-like noises; Dr. Heath comments on them, doesn't know what they are. Sirens clogged with dust, maybe?
WTC1 Collapse
WTC7
- "rare WTC7": building on fire is possibly WTC7; live commentary includes concern about stability of WTC7
Pentagon
- Pentagon Eyewitness Bob Pugh Tells His Story (uploaded 2007-06-24; ~10 minutes): compelling testimony which raises the spectre of the "no plane" theory; includes video of collapse, firefighting, other details
- Pentagon, 9:46am: "rare, new"; nothing exciting; shot from a distance, after the impact
General
Videos covering more than one category
Documentaries
- 9/11 Conspiracy Crash Course: (this is part 1; links to all parts are in comments) Covers many of the most solid objections.
- 9/11 Coincidences:
- The True Lies of 9/11 (Part I) (where are other parts?): somewhat overdramatic documentary arguing that Flight 175 was not what brought the building down. Presents conflicting descriptions of the plane. Recording of USA Today correspondent Jack Kelley saying that the FBI believed there was most likely a car or truck underneath the building packed with explosives which went off at the same time as the plane impact "the working theory at this point; unconfirmed"; Pat Dawson quotes (probably Albert Turi) about a secondary device. Same set of eyewitness reports of explosions as in another video, maybe some new ones.
- View across the channel of smoke emerging from the base of WTC1, coincident with faint explosive sounds, just before it starts to collapse. Ends near the beginning of a segment about the Pentagon. (where is next part?)
Eyewitness Accounts
- 2007-08-07 9/11 Firefighter John Schroeder on Explosions in WTC: Engine Company 10 firefighter John Schroeder is interviewed by Manny Badillo, family member of a 9/11 victim, and at least one unidentified person. Includes quotes and some analysis.
Anti-anomaly
see also 9/11 anomaly denial
- a teen or 20-something guy objects to the objections:
- he claims no professional structural engineers agree with the "controlled demolition" theory; this is false (this may be an honest mistake on the part of the video author)
- he cites the Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse as being a similar example of a failure mode not previously encountered, implying that the WTC collapses could be another such phenomenon. What he overlooks, of course, is that in the case of Tacoma Narrows, engineers intensely studied what had happened until they understood (a) why it had happened despite the best design practices of the day, and (b) how to prevent it again. If the WTC collapses were, in fact, due entirely to structural damage and heat from the airplane impact/fire, this would represent a gap in our understanding of structural steel engineering -- one which needs to be filled. Either the collapses came as a huge surprise and structural engineers were caught with their pants down, or the collapses were not due solely to the planes. There is no option to say "the planes hit the buildings and they collapsed, where's the surprise?".
Unfiled
Videos to be checked for content, to see what category they belong in
- My 9/11 part 1
- view of smoke from WTC1, explosion of 2nd plane obscured -- but someone is clearly overheard saying that plane #2 looked like a "United airplane"
- 9/11 the home video
- home video 9/11 part 1
- raw uncut home (still shot looks same as "distant view" of 2nd plane)
- home video of gnd zero
- view of WTC1 post-impact, obscured view of WTC2 impact, aftermath of WTC2 collapse
- rare Japan footage
- mishmash of coverage; WTC1, WTC2, Pentagon; jubilance somewhere in Middle East; press conferences...
- ground zero
- compilation
- amateur video from building next door
- part 3 - different view, emergence side; both collapses (no commentary on WTC1 collapse)
- "missing footage" part 2: "live" coverage with commentary, including 2nd plane impact
- "missing footage" part 3
- jumpers (or multiple views of same jumper?), can't tell which tower, commentary in Spanish
- Bob Golub
- ground zero "rare" - Steve Spak - cleanup
- ground zero not long after collapse: other bldgs on fire (might be shots of WTC7)
- footage from courtyard, after both attacks but before collapses. Muzak was still playing.
- Japanese documentary includes many scenes not often found, including inside of WTC(1?) lobby with debris falling
- "rare" reports of explosives: basically an audio recording
- documentary including lobby of tower 1 during collapse of tower 2
- home video from many miles away - pans away during collapse of tower 2 - mainly interesting because of conversations: "it exploded outward"... jet plane noise "what's that?"... brief capture (replayed at successively slower speeds) of another plane in the air, many minutes after both towers had collapsed.
- "pissed-off firemen at Ground Zero" 5 years later, yelling at 911 Truth advocates
- "Ground Zero ironworkers on anomalies": "there wasn't a phone, there wasn't a laptop... everything was pulverized" Also, a guy who worked on the tower construction expresses disbelief that they came down.
- "rare amateur 9/11 videos": includes yet a third angle on the 1st plane, briefly and from a distance
- "explosives going off in WTC clear audio": The Lone Lantern Society of America, lonelantern.org
- "unusual evacuations"
- "even more video proof of controlled demolitions"
- "The video that Google Video pulled down!"
Much better audio about Albert Turi saying there was a "secondary device"; Pat Dawson reporting:
(Google for "Albert Turrey" finds more)
FAA Manager Mangled, Cut, Destroyed 9/11 Tapes:
- AV Web: full article requires log-in
Less-useful footage, listed just to prevent re-checking:
- excerpt from BBC documentary showing explosions above the point of failure, WTC1
- the well-known BBC news piece about WTC7 collapse before it happened: WTC7 which is clearly visible behind reporter Jane Standley's head. This particular upload has some very anti-semitic commentary with it.
- CNN also says they have info that WTC7 has collapsed or will soon collapse, although commentator seems to be aware that this contradicts reality. Airplane is also heard in this video. There do seem to be large amounts of smoke billowing from the far side of WTC7, though absolutely nothing from the front. (What is the geometry of the situation? Could all that smoke be from the rubble of WTC1&2?) Includes same anti-semitic article; there seem to be a lot of uploads by the same group of people which all have the same comments.
- video alleging that the WTC2 impact was real-time computer animation, and the impact was actually a missile; compares several different views of the impact and explains how (and why) some are real and some are faked. The "nose-out error" he mentions, however, is consistent with videos from the right side of the impact which do clearly (at least in slo-mo) show the nose emerging from the far side before being engulfed in flame.
- The idea of "real-time computer animation" seems among the farthest of the far-fetched theories, unless someone can show technology capable of doing this reasonably well and reliably even now (much less in 2001)
- another video comparison between CNN's right-side shot and Scott someone's right-side shot; says they can't both be real