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* [[personal responsibility]] – the idea that each individual is solely responsible for his/her own well-being; government exists solely to ensure that the rules are enforced, which includes protection from hostile external forces. ''(This is often used as a cover to dodge [[social responsibility]], however.)'' | * [[personal responsibility]] – the idea that each individual is solely responsible for his/her own well-being; government exists solely to ensure that the rules are enforced, which includes protection from hostile external forces. ''(This is often used as a cover to dodge [[social responsibility]], however.)'' | ||
* [[small government]]: "The government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." – attributed to [[Gerald Ford]] [http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007328] and frequently [[Thomas Jefferson/misquotes|misattributed to Thomas Jefferson]] by conservatists in order to give it more credibility. ''(Conservatists will, however, support "big government" when it aligns with their [[../real|actual goals]] – so again, this is just a dodge.)'' | * [[small government]]: "The government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." – attributed to [[Gerald Ford]] [http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110007328] and frequently [[Thomas Jefferson/misquotes|misattributed to Thomas Jefferson]] by conservatists in order to give it more credibility. ''(Conservatists will, however, support "big government" when it aligns with their [[../real|actual goals]] – so again, this is just a dodge.)'' | ||
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Social conservatives argue that there is "wisdom embedded in [existing] social structures/norms", and that we tamper with those structures at our peril. In other words, the current social norms are the way they are because they have been proven to work over a long period of time, and there is considerable danger if they cease to work properly. | Social conservatives argue that there is "wisdom embedded in [existing] social structures/norms", and that we tamper with those structures at our peril. In other words, the current social norms are the way they are because they have been proven to work over a long period of time, and there is considerable danger if they cease to work properly. | ||
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* We don't know how those norms got the way they are or how they operate on society. | * We don't know how those norms got the way they are or how they operate on society. | ||
** This claim is at odds with the idea that we as a civilization have been documenting our own history in considerable detail for many centuries now, and are indeed quite capable of noting which experiments have succeeded, which failed, and which were made popular or unpopular without correlation to (and for reasons other than) their success or failure at their intended purpose. There is in fact an entire field of science -- anthropology -- devoted to the study of different human cultures existing and past, and the ways in which they functioned or failed. The social conservative attitude essentially favors custom over understanding, shuns experimentation, and fears the possible consequences. | ** This claim is at odds with the idea that we as a civilization have been documenting our own history in considerable detail for many centuries now, and are indeed quite capable of noting which experiments have succeeded, which failed, and which were made popular or unpopular without correlation to (and for reasons other than) their success or failure at their intended purpose. There is in fact an entire field of science -- anthropology -- devoted to the study of different human cultures existing and past, and the ways in which they functioned or failed. The social conservative attitude essentially favors custom over understanding, shuns experimentation, and fears the possible consequences. | ||
| + | * Society works just fine how it is, and does not need improving. | ||
| + | ** This is only true for a small minority, and provides cover for failure to address a large number of social issues experienced by the majority. | ||
Social conservatives are at odds with social [[liberal]]s on certain issues: | Social conservatives are at odds with social [[liberal]]s on certain issues: | ||
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* [[death penalty]] (conservatives for, liberals against) | * [[death penalty]] (conservatives for, liberals against) | ||
* [[gun control]] (conservatives against, liberals for) | * [[gun control]] (conservatives against, liberals for) | ||
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Fiscal conservatism expresses concern about government expenditure they view as unnecessary, and tend to prefer solutions where private industry or "faith-based" groups provide the bulk of the funding. For this reason, they tend to seek solutions based in [[free market]] incentives. They also tend to be against government regulation, however, which they unfortunately often seem to forget is a [[free markets require regulation|requirement]] for a free marketplace. | Fiscal conservatism expresses concern about government expenditure they view as unnecessary, and tend to prefer solutions where private industry or "faith-based" groups provide the bulk of the funding. For this reason, they tend to seek solutions based in [[free market]] incentives. They also tend to be against government regulation, however, which they unfortunately often seem to forget is a [[free markets require regulation|requirement]] for a free marketplace. | ||
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[[Conservapedia]] {{conservapedia|conservative|defines}} (US) Conservatism as having the following attributes: | [[Conservapedia]] {{conservapedia|conservative|defines}} (US) Conservatism as having the following attributes: | ||
* promotes moral and economic values beneficial to all | * promotes moral and economic values beneficial to all | ||
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{{fmt/quote|A conservative typically adheres to principles of [[personal responsibility]], moral values, and [[limited government]].}} | {{fmt/quote|A conservative typically adheres to principles of [[personal responsibility]], moral values, and [[limited government]].}} | ||
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The [[Heritage Foundation]], a conservatist [[conservatism/US/org|think-tank]], states a belief {{fmt/quote|in [[individual liberty]], [[free enterprise]], [[limited government]], a [[strong national defense]], and [[traditional American values]]. We want an America that is safe and secure; where choices (in [[US education|education]], [[US health care|health care]] and retirement) abound; where taxes are fair, flat, and comprehensible; where everybody has the opportunity to go as far as their talents will take them; where government concentrates on its core functions, recognizes its limits and shows favor to none. ... we believe the values and ideas that motivated our Founding Fathers are worth conserving.}} This would seem to be a reasonable definition of the best attributes of American conservatism. | The [[Heritage Foundation]], a conservatist [[conservatism/US/org|think-tank]], states a belief {{fmt/quote|in [[individual liberty]], [[free enterprise]], [[limited government]], a [[strong national defense]], and [[traditional American values]]. We want an America that is safe and secure; where choices (in [[US education|education]], [[US health care|health care]] and retirement) abound; where taxes are fair, flat, and comprehensible; where everybody has the opportunity to go as far as their talents will take them; where government concentrates on its core functions, recognizes its limits and shows favor to none. ... we believe the values and ideas that motivated our Founding Fathers are worth conserving.}} This would seem to be a reasonable definition of the best attributes of American conservatism. | ||
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beliefs and positions claimed by US conservatism
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In the US, conservatists often advocate for:
- personal responsibility – the idea that each individual is solely responsible for his/her own well-being; government exists solely to ensure that the rules are enforced, which includes protection from hostile external forces. (This is often used as a cover to dodge social responsibility, however.)
- small government: "The government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." – attributed to Gerald Ford [1] and frequently misattributed to Thomas Jefferson by conservatists in order to give it more credibility. (Conservatists will, however, support "big government" when it aligns with their actual goals – so again, this is just a dodge.)
Social Conservatism
Social conservatives argue that there is "wisdom embedded in [existing] social structures/norms", and that we tamper with those structures at our peril. In other words, the current social norms are the way they are because they have been proven to work over a long period of time, and there is considerable danger if they cease to work properly.
This statement implies several things:
- Current social norms have existed for a long time.
- This is not really true, especially with regard to the particular norms most strongly advocated by conservatists.
- We don't know how those norms got the way they are or how they operate on society.
- This claim is at odds with the idea that we as a civilization have been documenting our own history in considerable detail for many centuries now, and are indeed quite capable of noting which experiments have succeeded, which failed, and which were made popular or unpopular without correlation to (and for reasons other than) their success or failure at their intended purpose. There is in fact an entire field of science -- anthropology -- devoted to the study of different human cultures existing and past, and the ways in which they functioned or failed. The social conservative attitude essentially favors custom over understanding, shuns experimentation, and fears the possible consequences.
- Society works just fine how it is, and does not need improving.
- This is only true for a small minority, and provides cover for failure to address a large number of social issues experienced by the majority.
Social conservatives are at odds with social liberals on certain issues:
- marriage (liberals want to broaden it, conservatives don't)
- death penalty (conservatives for, liberals against)
- gun control (conservatives against, liberals for)
Fiscal Conservatism
Fiscal conservatism expresses concern about government expenditure they view as unnecessary, and tend to prefer solutions where private industry or "faith-based" groups provide the bulk of the funding. For this reason, they tend to seek solutions based in free market incentives. They also tend to be against government regulation, however, which they unfortunately often seem to forget is a requirement for a free marketplace.
Conservapedia
Conservapedia defines
(US) Conservatism as having the following attributes:
- promotes moral and economic values beneficial to all
- looks to the insights of economics and the logic of the Bible for the benefit of all
- favors conserving value by not giving handouts to anyone who does not really need them
It then also goes to list a number of specific political positions favored by neoconservatism, neoliberalism, and dominionism.
«A conservative typically adheres to principles of personal responsibility, moral values, and limited government.»
Heritage Foundation
The Heritage Foundation, a conservatist think-tank, states a belief «in individual liberty, free enterprise, limited government, a strong national defense, and traditional American values. We want an America that is safe and secure; where choices (in education, health care and retirement) abound; where taxes are fair, flat, and comprehensible; where everybody has the opportunity to go as far as their talents will take them; where government concentrates on its core functions, recognizes its limits and shows favor to none. ... we believe the values and ideas that motivated our Founding Fathers are worth conserving.» This would seem to be a reasonable definition of the best attributes of American conservatism.