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==Overview==
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[[category:events]]This page is for information about the upcoming 2008 {{USA}} presidential election, which is bound to be a watershed event whichever way it goes.
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<p>To put [the "undecided" voters] in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?"</p>
  
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Many people fear that the democratic process will in some way be subverted with regard to this election, including the following possibilities:
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<p>To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.</p>
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* The election will be rigged, as were the [[2000 US presidential election|2000]] and [[2004 US presidential election|2004]] elections, and another [[neoconservative]] [[kleptocrat]] supported (perhaps covertly) by the [[Bush II administration|current administration]] will officially win even though an accurate vote would have elected a different candidate.
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|David Sedaris, October 2008
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* Bush will declare [[martial law]], or otherwise use the [[Bush's elevation of presidential power|enhanced presidential powers]] he has been allowed to claim &ndash; possibly in the wake of some kind of national emergency like [[9/11|the one which allowed him to gain those powers]] &ndash; and there will either be ''no'' election (completing the next step in the [[Nehemiah Scudder]] scenario) or one that is severely curtailed and inaccurate.
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==About==
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This page is for information about the race (i.e. the candidates and their stands on various issues) for the upcoming [[2008 US presidential election]], which is bound to be a watershed event whichever way it goes.
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==Related Pages==
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This page is written from a standpoint of assuming that the voting process will proceed properly and democratically; for details and concerns about the actual voting, see [[2008 US presidential election]].
  
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==Candidates==
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==Status==
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Listing of people considered either candidates or possible candidates:
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===The Party Nominees===
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'''2008-08-30'''
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* '''[[US Democratic Party|Democratic]] nominee''': [[Barack Obama]], VP [[Joe Biden]]
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* '''[[US Republican Party|Republican]] nominee''': [[John McCain]], VP [[Sarah Palin]]
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===The Numbers===
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* [http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/08-us-pres-ge-mvo.php pollster.com]: who's more popular, day-by-day
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* [http://www.intrade.com/ InTrade]: a [[prediction marketplace]] currently focusing on the election
  
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* [[Barack Obama]]
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==History==
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* [[Hillary Clinton]]: much discussed, not officially running yet; hated by Republicans; [[David Brin]] says "No senators!"
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Early candidates included:
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* [[John Edwards]]: has formally announced candidacy
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* [[Barack Obama]] (D)
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* [[John McCain]] launched presidential campaign on 2006-04-25
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* [[Chris Dodd]] (D)
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* [[Rudy Guiliani]] (is he running, or just campaigning for other Republicans?): current mayor of New York; says "If a Democrat is elected president in 2008, America will be at risk for another terrorist attack on the scale of [[9/11|Sept. 11, 2001]].... Never ever again will this country ever be on defense waiting for (terrorists) to attack us if I have anything to say about it. And make no mistake, the Democrats want to put us back on defense!" (This statement is so full of... gaaah.)
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* [[Dennis Kucinich]] (D)
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==Reference==
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* [[Hillary Clinton]] (D): hated by Republicans, despite being rather like them in some ways; [[David Brin]] says "No senators!" (but ultimately backed [[Barack Obama|Senator Obama]])
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* Wikipedia: [[wikipedia:United States presidential election, 2008|United States presidential election]]
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* [[Joe Biden]] (D)
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* Campaigns Wikia: [[campaigns:United States presidential election, 2008|United States presidential election]]
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* [[John Edwards]]: conceded the race to Obama, and then was caught in a sex scandal a few weeks later
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* [[John McCain]] launched presidential campaign on 2006-04-25; has pledged to continue Bush's idiotic/failed policies
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* [[Mike Huckabee]] (R): insane [[religious right|Christo-fascist]]
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* [[Mitt Romney]] (R)
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* [[Ron Paul]] (R) - former [[Libertarian]], heavily supportive of the [[US Constitution]]
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* [[Rudy Giuliani]] (R), ran on a 9/11-Terror platform
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==Links==
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===Reference===
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* {{sourcewatch|U.S. presidential election, 2008}} (U.S. presidential election, 2008)
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* {{wikipedia|United States presidential election, 2008}} (United States presidential election, 2008)
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* [[campaigns:United States presidential election, 2008|Campaigns Wikia]] (United States presidential election, 2008)
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* [[rational:2008 U.S. Presidential Election|RationalWiki]] (2008 U.S. Presidential Election)
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* [http://www.2decide.com/table.htm table of issues x positions]
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* [http://www.dehp.net/candidate/index.php Pick Your Candidate]: lets you pick your position on about 20 issues, then shows you a list of candidates ranked by how closely their stated views agree with yours
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** [http://www.dehp.net/candidate/stats.php statistics] from the above survey
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* '''Pennsylvania''' (relevant to the kerfuffle over [[Barack Obama|Obama]]'s remarks on PA rural voters):
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** [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/03/pennsylvania-primary-poll_n_94943.html Pennsylvania Polls: Democratic Primary] (article dated 2008-04-03, but seems to be continuously updated)
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===Filed Links===
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{{links/news}}
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===Articles===
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* (no date) [http://web.me.com/davidvwhite/Site/Welcome.html A Letter to My Republican Father]
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* '''2007-07-27''' [http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/58063/ What Are the Democratic Candidates Really Saying about Iraq?] by Ira Chernus: how to decipher the doublespeak (related: [[US invasion of Iraq]])
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===News===
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* '''2007-10-14''' [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/14/MN4ASL450.DTL Groups on left, right ask candidates to reject Bush's wider powers]: "[[George W. Bush|President Bush]]'s drive to [[Bush's elevation of presidential power|expand executive power]] over surveillance, detention, [[torture during GWB administration|interrogation]] and [[GWB signing statements|the meaning of new laws]] has drawn largely ineffectual protests from Congress. But a group of liberals and a handful of prominent conservatives are pressing would-be successors to renounce those powers before they take office."
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* '''2007-06-05''' [http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/6/5/234031/2453 GOP Candidates Weigh in on Scooter Libby Pardon] (Related: [[2007-07-02 Libby bail-out]])
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===Humor===
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* '''2007-07-14''' [http://www.idrewthis.org/d/20070714.html I Drew This] looks at the 4 main [[US Republican Party|GOP]] candidates
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====joke candidates====
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* [http://www.michaelpalinforpresident.com/ Michael Palin for President]: the Palin we really wanted (instead of [[Sarah Palin|Sarah]])
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* [http://www.tighroslin.com/ Tigh-Roslin] (running on the ''[[Battlestar Galactica]]'' platform)
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===Miscellaneous===
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* [http://goldwatermiller08.com/ Goldwater-Miller '08]: the granddaughter and daughter of [[Barry Goldwater]] and [[Bill Miller]] make the point that [[George W. Bush]]'s [[Republican Party (US)|Republican Party]] is not truly [[conservative]]
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==Quotes==
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{{excerpt|A rather telling quote, assuming it is genuine, from a comment on [[2008-02-01 Coulter: I Will Vote for Hillary Over McCain|this article]] (with proofreading corrections):}}
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As a Persian-Armenian woman, I am voting for [[Hillary Clinton|Sen. Clinton]]. Me & my family voted for her 2 times & we will vote again & again. She has the brain, intelligence & experience to run this country. She will be ready to from the 1st day. She will work on [[stem cell research|stem cell [research]]], she will fix the budget. Remember [[Bill Clinton|President Clinton]]'s era? He fixed the budget & left with a surplus; what was wrong with that? His personal lifestyle is not my business and it didn't affect me a bit. He will be an asset in the White House; he was one of the smartest presidents in past 30 years that I know of (living in this country). [[Barack Obama|Obama]] is not up to par for this position yet, maybe in 12 years when he gets some experience. As for as republicans, I respect [[John McCain]] as a war hero, but I can not see all the hard tax payers' money get wasted in [[US occupation of Iraq|Iraq]], I can not see us there for another 100 years. We will probably fix Iraq & then they will turn around and charge us $300 for oil. [[Mitt Romney|Romney]]? You must be kidding me. He wants to run this country as a corporation. I have worked with big corporations, and with them everything is money; they don't care about the employees & it is my way or the highway &ndash; similar to [[George W. Bush|Bush]]'s way. They can cheat us big time. [[Mike Huckabee|Huckabee]] is a joke, he wants to abolish the [[US constitution|constitution]] & create a religious base of laws, if I wanted that , I would have stayed in [[Iran|IRAN]]. Religion [[separation of church and state|cannot be mixed with the current laws]]. We are living in year 2008, we have laws; we are not living in the 10th century were there were no laws.
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Religion can not play a role in this country. If it does, then what will be different between us & the religious idiots running Iran? Go Hillary!
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Latest revision as of 20:53, 15 June 2013

To put [the "undecided" voters] in perspective, I think of being on an airplane. The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. "Can I interest you in the chicken?" she asks. "Or would you prefer the platter of shit with bits of broken glass in it?"

To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.

—David Sedaris, October 2008

About

This page is for information about the race (i.e. the candidates and their stands on various issues) for the upcoming 2008 US presidential election, which is bound to be a watershed event whichever way it goes.

Related Pages

This page is written from a standpoint of assuming that the voting process will proceed properly and democratically; for details and concerns about the actual voting, see 2008 US presidential election.

Status

The Party Nominees

2008-08-30

The Numbers

History

Early candidates included:

Links

Reference

Filed Links

Related

  • 2008/05/11 [L..T] Three Names Shock Me... A substantial list of economists sign a statement supporting McCain's economic policy, but it is revealed that they are nowhere near the majority in their profession.


Articles

News

Humor

joke candidates

Miscellaneous

Quotes

A rather telling quote, assuming it is genuine, from a comment on this article (with proofreading corrections):

As a Persian-Armenian woman, I am voting for Sen. Clinton. Me & my family voted for her 2 times & we will vote again & again. She has the brain, intelligence & experience to run this country. She will be ready to from the 1st day. She will work on stem cell [research], she will fix the budget. Remember President Clinton's era? He fixed the budget & left with a surplus; what was wrong with that? His personal lifestyle is not my business and it didn't affect me a bit. He will be an asset in the White House; he was one of the smartest presidents in past 30 years that I know of (living in this country). Obama is not up to par for this position yet, maybe in 12 years when he gets some experience. As for as republicans, I respect John McCain as a war hero, but I can not see all the hard tax payers' money get wasted in Iraq, I can not see us there for another 100 years. We will probably fix Iraq & then they will turn around and charge us $300 for oil. Romney? You must be kidding me. He wants to run this country as a corporation. I have worked with big corporations, and with them everything is money; they don't care about the employees & it is my way or the highway – similar to Bush's way. They can cheat us big time. Huckabee is a joke, he wants to abolish the constitution & create a religious base of laws, if I wanted that , I would have stayed in IRAN. Religion cannot be mixed with the current laws. We are living in year 2008, we have laws; we are not living in the 10th century were there were no laws.

Religion can not play a role in this country. If it does, then what will be different between us & the religious idiots running Iran? Go Hillary!

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