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This subpage is for notes on individual [[Google+]] users. | This subpage is for notes on individual [[Google+]] users. | ||
==Issue Idealogues== | ==Issue Idealogues== | ||
+ | These users have fixed views on certain issues but haven't clearly crossed the line into trolling: | ||
+ | * [[/Doug Leins]] | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/106403022809621967046 Adam Kenigsberg]: | * [https://plus.google.com/106403022809621967046 Adam Kenigsberg]: | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/104029794170508855321/posts/cZkXYZpZPVe 2012-07-03] - doesn't like atheists or liberals; repeatedly calls me "miz" and "miss" as if he thinks he's scoring points (how common is this?) (may also be one or two other problematic users in that thread) | ** [https://plus.google.com/104029794170508855321/posts/cZkXYZpZPVe 2012-07-03] - doesn't like atheists or liberals; repeatedly calls me "miz" and "miss" as if he thinks he's scoring points (how common is this?) (may also be one or two other problematic users in that thread) | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/100637432722229806122 Andrew Andrews]: skilled GW denialist | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/100637432722229806122 Andrew Andrews]: skilled GW denialist | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/Qw7pXpadQsx 2012-02-15] | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/Qw7pXpadQsx 2012-02-15] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116060136011416941802 Christopher Shaker]: GW denialist | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109027288459519863918/posts/P3mAoAh6FiF 2013-03-15] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113441025546840284414 Ed Bradford] | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104013835962992611989/posts/1bAvCtPzW2F 2013-05-11] global warming denialism | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/eikoh6MZdkH 2013-10-10] blames Obama/Dems for shutdown; anti-Obamacare rhetoric]; also, 2 other credible commenters express negative opinion of him | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/115250092116589881567 Jacques Dupuis] - actually does seem to have nuanced views, but seems to express them in ways that sound worse than they are. | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/115250092116589881567 Jacques Dupuis] - actually does seem to have nuanced views, but seems to express them in ways that sound worse than they are. | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116987987149730551614/posts/WgsGy1v1gGQ 2012-03-22] - anti-DoE? | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116987987149730551614/posts/WgsGy1v1gGQ 2012-03-22] - anti-DoE? | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/115250092116589881567/posts/aFKT3uEEQ9Q 2012-07-01] - Penn Jillette quote | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/115250092116589881567/posts/aFKT3uEEQ9Q 2012-07-01] - Penn Jillette quote | ||
− | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/105317484395739961116 Jim Richardson] | + | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/105317484395739961116 Jim Richardson] - had to [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/iyhhqzpqvTm block him] until I have time to research/organize his claims |
− | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116987987149730551614/posts/EiFf8prKvRG 2012-04-25] global warming denial | + | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116987987149730551614/posts/EiFf8prKvRG 2012-04-25] global warming denial (Vostok core) |
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/eowWPT7SfAc 2012-04-29] compares right's treatment of Rachel Maddow with left's treatment of Sarah Palin | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/eowWPT7SfAc 2012-04-29] compares right's treatment of Rachel Maddow with left's treatment of Sarah Palin | ||
− | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/itbfeWbiKf6 2012-04-29] defender of the rich | + | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/109410878385939067590/posts/itbfeWbiKf6 2012-04-29] defender of the rich; discussion of taxes |
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/TCDS8CtSRpG 2013-06-01] mapping out Jim's ethical system re helping others | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/dhriojMMDye 2013-07-10] more GW denial: CO2 doesn't cause GW (Vostok core again) | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107055867331675327046 Joe Betsill] -- probably should be classified as a troll, but he's definitely an issue idealogue too | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/101801615825620510643/posts/aUq6LsZDWVC 2013-07-30] "He does this in every thread on the subject. Its a constant repeat performance from him. He'll compare gay marriage to incestual marriage as though they are no different....but of course he'll just say "incest" leaving it in the broadest of scope. Then of course will call you a hypocrite or make the claim you can't follow logic because you didn't discern that he didn't mean "incest" broadly, rather just a very small, defined version of it. Like you said....classic troll.?" | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/108311323660188933426 k.c Baynes] | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/100520148877423056661/posts/F6y5tu1FbVC capitalism propaganda] | ||
+ | * [[/Noel Yap]] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/+RobertHirschSandor/posts Robert Hirsch] | ||
+ | ** finally blocked him after [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113630203692968581887/posts/TUQJwGPdhmV this] | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102337447488628669805 Ryder Spearmann] | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102337447488628669805 Ryder Spearmann] | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/105398101580254540818/posts/GBEXSRVxnya 2012-04-13] anti-Obamacare trolling | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/105398101580254540818/posts/GBEXSRVxnya 2012-04-13] anti-Obamacare trolling | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/110306159577700967502 Sean Turner] | ||
+ | ** posted anti-gun meme that was refuted in 2001: [https://plus.google.com/u/0/110306159577700967502/posts/25Xg4YQQZE5 Post Anything] [https://plus.google.com/u/0/110306159577700967502/posts/61HrQ5mar6j deleted from GUNS KNIVES & EDC] [https://plus.google.com/u/0/110306159577700967502/posts/5AoJ2RQrTAd Thinkers] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/107503635617395328870 Tonia Addison-Hall]: major homophobe | ||
+ | ** https://plus.google.com/107503635617395328870/posts/BSB9PKDEz2P | ||
==Possible Trolls== | ==Possible Trolls== | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/111912649367431206990 Acquistare Disegno] -- see [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107991184034868817056/posts/X3umEHzjTPz this thread]. | * [https://plus.google.com/111912649367431206990 Acquistare Disegno] -- see [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107991184034868817056/posts/X3umEHzjTPz this thread]. | ||
** 2011-10-30: his account is now named "Pin Up Bot" | ** 2011-10-30: his account is now named "Pin Up Bot" | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/111366164936189851916/ Arthur Gwynne] | ||
+ | ** https://plus.google.com/104029794170508855321/posts/DvY5T47cbdz - serious, or trolling? | ||
+ | ** I've also seen him be reasonable in other threads | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104358908519367189535/about Chris Harrison] | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104358908519367189535/about Chris Harrison] | ||
** https://plus.google.com/u/0/109027288459519863918/posts/CnmJBGXv2CN - dialogue about partisanship and global warming | ** https://plus.google.com/u/0/109027288459519863918/posts/CnmJBGXv2CN - dialogue about partisanship and global warming | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/115517726843785006249 Craig Eddy]: anti-[[Occupy movement]], uses only flat emotionally-based statements | ||
+ | ** https://plus.google.com/u/0/108404515213153345305/posts/5NcA7r3f2rx | ||
+ | * [[/Dan Baker]] | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/104998843805887136938 Jim Morris] -- has twice deleted offending comments after being identified, so save copies (preferably both screencap and text) of what he says first. | * [https://plus.google.com/104998843805887136938 Jim Morris] -- has twice deleted offending comments after being identified, so save copies (preferably both screencap and text) of what he says first. | ||
− | * [ | + | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/101557612307322870761 John Scott] |
+ | ** emotional manipulation in this thread: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/ESTe25TsYs6 | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/117123361855611180560 KC King] | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/117123361855611180560 KC King] | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113215976889659570939/posts/ajoGUCN3axf 2012-03-22] | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/113215976889659570939/posts/ajoGUCN3axf 2012-03-22] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/117555571371029125906 Rob Campbell] | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/100216752629082924770/posts/1Mao79q95o4 example] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/110992897911137455300 Scott Munro] | ||
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/L9puWieTuvt 2013-06-24] global warming denialism on a Bernie Sanders post | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/108250181993353688015 Thomas Bushnell] is reportedly a Google employee who essentially trolls any discussion of naming policy; see comment on [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104687133803298532334/posts/YNB48PsXxKg this post] (1 report only). | * [https://plus.google.com/108250181993353688015 Thomas Bushnell] is reportedly a Google employee who essentially trolls any discussion of naming policy; see comment on [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104687133803298532334/posts/YNB48PsXxKg this post] (1 report only). | ||
− | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/ | + | ==Serious Problems== |
− | * | + | Trolling or not, these had serious problems relating to others who disagreed with them: |
− | + | * [[/Gord Birch]] -- OMFG... | |
− | * | + | ==Possible Sockpuppets== |
− | + | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116544627668125966978 Gregory Geller]: [[/Gord Birch]] supporter - but later seemed okay (unless I'm confusing him with another Gregory; need to look this up) | |
− | + | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/108503876140772272370 John Benussi]: [[/Gord Birch]] supporter, trolling near end of [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/4WNmkamhG8X this thread] | |
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/111744964686756029737/posts/TrNLTnadtWK list] of troll and sockpuppet accounts... by someone whose account looks similar to one of the listed accounts...? | ||
==Immune to Reason== | ==Immune to Reason== | ||
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* [https://plus.google.com/115654160414327824330 Jay Maynard] makes me grind my teeth on some issues, while on others he is quite reasonable | * [https://plus.google.com/115654160414327824330 Jay Maynard] makes me grind my teeth on some issues, while on others he is quite reasonable | ||
** In [https://plus.google.com/111502940353406919728/posts/bJAEHtz6hbx this thread], Tony Sidaway describes him as "a professional noisemaker with nothing sensible to say on any topic", which seems reasonable. | ** In [https://plus.google.com/111502940353406919728/posts/bJAEHtz6hbx this thread], Tony Sidaway describes him as "a professional noisemaker with nothing sensible to say on any topic", which seems reasonable. | ||
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* [https://plus.google.com/109083396980587151144 Marcin Ciszewicz] (male, despite avatar): free-market cheerleader | * [https://plus.google.com/109083396980587151144 Marcin Ciszewicz] (male, despite avatar): free-market cheerleader | ||
** [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/jEBRXFwfxc5 minor example]; there are better ones | ** [https://plus.google.com/102282887764745350285/posts/jEBRXFwfxc5 minor example]; there are better ones | ||
− | + | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/112730311517937020388 Rich White] | |
+ | ** [https://plus.google.com/u/0/117109546349103307995/posts/5zb8RMMnbnH confusing left and right] | ||
+ | ==Serious Issues== | ||
+ | * Gurudatta Raut, aka [https://plus.google.com/u/0/104952034724015324175/posts/Ao5CShz3YsM Raghuvir Satyame Vijayate (Logically Genius)] | ||
+ | ** also [https://plus.google.com/115005197058006245871 Google POLICE] | ||
+ | ** See [https://plus.google.com/u/0/108510686109338749229/posts/6mau5s3ZqHH this thread]; also I have a screencap of the one referenced, which is now deleted | ||
==Keep an Eye On== | ==Keep an Eye On== | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107736282424750070684 Lance Norris] (still active as of 2012-04-26) | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107736282424750070684 Lance Norris] (still active as of 2012-04-26) | ||
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* [https://plus.google.com/110105685598604463480 Jim Clark] - account not found as of 2012-04-26 | * [https://plus.google.com/110105685598604463480 Jim Clark] - account not found as of 2012-04-26 | ||
** In [https://plus.google.com/u/0/103183570053193175186/posts/GuizbEL3hs4 this thread], Rugger Ducky thinks he's trolling. | ** In [https://plus.google.com/u/0/103183570053193175186/posts/GuizbEL3hs4 this thread], Rugger Ducky thinks he's trolling. | ||
+ | ==Users With Businesses or Knowledge== | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/115471815788264818704 byron rempel] - [http://byronrempel.etsy.com/ etsy] | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/103227255798274283510 Christopher Hannigan] - professional tax preparer | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/107317949950892155344 David Whitlock] - knows about cement - invented/commercialized "a process to remove unburned carbon from flyash so that the flyash could be used as a pozzolan in concrete and replace cement." ... "We have recycled over 10 million tons of flyash." comment [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/7XWtk6LsGm4 here] | ||
+ | |||
==Regional Sympathizers== | ==Regional Sympathizers== | ||
Sympathetic types whose general location is known -- might be able to fact-check: | Sympathetic types whose general location is known -- might be able to fact-check: | ||
* [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116961869106680482045 Charlie Harris] - Arizona [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/H7wfZSGk4A2] | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116961869106680482045 Charlie Harris] - Arizona [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102282887764745350285/posts/H7wfZSGk4A2] | ||
+ | ==Local People== | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/101887720738858476726 Carolyn Martin]: Waynesville | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/116472363297290737047 Keith Bloemendaal] ([https://plus.google.com/u/0/106199264013210728364 personal]): Carolina Beach | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/102704185892805933856 Kelvin Morrison]: Durham | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/105502506545735279423 Pam Spaulding] (of course): Durham | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/u/0/106859382917224720130/about stephanie freund] Holly Springs? | ||
+ | ==Blocking Me== | ||
+ | ===unconfirmed=== | ||
+ | * [https://plus.google.com/101124033896066033535 Gary Walker] - Cindy apparently recalls that there was a fracas | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===confirmed=== | ||
+ | * [[/Gord Birch]] |
Latest revision as of 15:39, 7 October 2017
This subpage is for notes on individual Google+ users.
Issue Idealogues
These users have fixed views on certain issues but haven't clearly crossed the line into trolling:
- /Doug Leins
- Adam Kenigsberg:
- 2012-07-03 - doesn't like atheists or liberals; repeatedly calls me "miz" and "miss" as if he thinks he's scoring points (how common is this?) (may also be one or two other problematic users in that thread)
- Andrew Andrews: skilled GW denialist
- Christopher Shaker: GW denialist
- Ed Bradford
- 2013-05-11 global warming denialism
- 2013-10-10 blames Obama/Dems for shutdown; anti-Obamacare rhetoric]; also, 2 other credible commenters express negative opinion of him
- Jacques Dupuis - actually does seem to have nuanced views, but seems to express them in ways that sound worse than they are.
- 2012-03-22 - anti-DoE?
- 2012-07-01 - Penn Jillette quote
- Jim Richardson - had to block him until I have time to research/organize his claims
- 2012-04-25 global warming denial (Vostok core)
- 2012-04-29 compares right's treatment of Rachel Maddow with left's treatment of Sarah Palin
- 2012-04-29 defender of the rich; discussion of taxes
- 2013-06-01 mapping out Jim's ethical system re helping others
- 2013-07-10 more GW denial: CO2 doesn't cause GW (Vostok core again)
- Joe Betsill -- probably should be classified as a troll, but he's definitely an issue idealogue too
- 2013-07-30 "He does this in every thread on the subject. Its a constant repeat performance from him. He'll compare gay marriage to incestual marriage as though they are no different....but of course he'll just say "incest" leaving it in the broadest of scope. Then of course will call you a hypocrite or make the claim you can't follow logic because you didn't discern that he didn't mean "incest" broadly, rather just a very small, defined version of it. Like you said....classic troll.?"
- k.c Baynes
- /Noel Yap
- Robert Hirsch
- finally blocked him after this
- Ryder Spearmann
- 2012-04-13 anti-Obamacare trolling
- Sean Turner
- posted anti-gun meme that was refuted in 2001: Post Anything deleted from GUNS KNIVES & EDC Thinkers
- Tonia Addison-Hall: major homophobe
Possible Trolls
- Acquistare Disegno -- see this thread.
- 2011-10-30: his account is now named "Pin Up Bot"
- Arthur Gwynne
- https://plus.google.com/104029794170508855321/posts/DvY5T47cbdz - serious, or trolling?
- I've also seen him be reasonable in other threads
- Chris Harrison
- https://plus.google.com/u/0/109027288459519863918/posts/CnmJBGXv2CN - dialogue about partisanship and global warming
- Craig Eddy: anti-Occupy movement, uses only flat emotionally-based statements
- /Dan Baker
- Jim Morris -- has twice deleted offending comments after being identified, so save copies (preferably both screencap and text) of what he says first.
- John Scott
- emotional manipulation in this thread: https://plus.google.com/u/0/102227800261183349957/posts/ESTe25TsYs6
- KC King
- Rob Campbell
- Scott Munro
- 2013-06-24 global warming denialism on a Bernie Sanders post
- Thomas Bushnell is reportedly a Google employee who essentially trolls any discussion of naming policy; see comment on this post (1 report only).
Serious Problems
Trolling or not, these had serious problems relating to others who disagreed with them:
- /Gord Birch -- OMFG...
Possible Sockpuppets
- Gregory Geller: /Gord Birch supporter - but later seemed okay (unless I'm confusing him with another Gregory; need to look this up)
- John Benussi: /Gord Birch supporter, trolling near end of this thread
- list of troll and sockpuppet accounts... by someone whose account looks similar to one of the listed accounts...?
Immune to Reason
- Jay Maynard makes me grind my teeth on some issues, while on others he is quite reasonable
- In this thread, Tony Sidaway describes him as "a professional noisemaker with nothing sensible to say on any topic", which seems reasonable.
- in this thread, he seems to be representing the views of the Foxagandized Masses; David Gerard says "Jay is not a troll, but believes every word he writes." -- but then clarifies "I didn't say he wasn't immune to reason. That's quite different from sincerity or not."
- in this thread he refers to the New York Times as "Pravda on the Hudson"
- https://plus.google.com/u/0/111502940353406919728/posts/5wgdgTyJU2Y
- in this thread, he gives a hint about his background
- Catherine Fitzpatrick: might sincerely believe what she says, but likes to cherry-pick and distort. Shava Nerad knows her IRL.
- wikipedia:Catherine A. Fitzpatrick seems to be the same person, though there is no direct confirmation.
- dialogues:
- Dylan Ratigan loses it
- Naomi Wolf arrested: claims Wolf is a provocateur and OWS are Bolsheviks
- Aaron Cole: insists that journalists must be objective and "report news, not make it"
- Gareth Baker
- Texas Judge Beats Daughter, And I'm So Glad She Taped It: comes in with what seems like an understandable viewpoint, but then ignores and mischaracterizes counterarguments
- graham mewburn
- e.g. - anti-evolution
- Marcin Ciszewicz (male, despite avatar): free-market cheerleader
- minor example; there are better ones
- Rich White
Serious Issues
- Gurudatta Raut, aka Raghuvir Satyame Vijayate (Logically Genius)
- also Google POLICE
- See this thread; also I have a screencap of the one referenced, which is now deleted
Keep an Eye On
- Lance Norris (still active as of 2012-04-26)
- from this thread: "given a choice between he two, I'll go with the Right. Reagan added millions more jobs than Obama has without spending us into oblivion. The current Republican bills calling for lower taxes and other business incentives have been proven more than once. Obama's stimulus? Thanks to the Democrats we have more debt than at any other time in history and the job growth it was suppose to create still hasn't occurred." When asked for evidence, said he would provide it but was taking an ill relative to the hospital, "stay tuned".
- Jim Clark - account not found as of 2012-04-26
- In this thread, Rugger Ducky thinks he's trolling.
Users With Businesses or Knowledge
- byron rempel - etsy
- Christopher Hannigan - professional tax preparer
- David Whitlock - knows about cement - invented/commercialized "a process to remove unburned carbon from flyash so that the flyash could be used as a pozzolan in concrete and replace cement." ... "We have recycled over 10 million tons of flyash." comment here
Regional Sympathizers
Sympathetic types whose general location is known -- might be able to fact-check:
- Charlie Harris - Arizona [1]
Local People
- Carolyn Martin: Waynesville
- Keith Bloemendaal (personal): Carolina Beach
- Kelvin Morrison: Durham
- Pam Spaulding (of course): Durham
- stephanie freund Holly Springs?
Blocking Me
unconfirmed
- Gary Walker - Cindy apparently recalls that there was a fracas