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* the [[genocide of the American Indians]]
 
* the [[genocide of the American Indians]]
 
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These items also fall into the category of [[American imperialism]], something which [[US conservatism|conservatives]] generally deny exists.
 
* [[George H.W. Bush]] urging [[Iraq]]i Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that [[1991 Gulf War|we were "on our way"]] and would protect them, and then backing off &ndash; thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2007/09/freshly-back-from-china-and-japan-where.html]
 
* [[George H.W. Bush]] urging [[Iraq]]i Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that [[1991 Gulf War|we were "on our way"]] and would protect them, and then backing off &ndash; thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [http://davidbrin.blogspot.com/2007/09/freshly-back-from-china-and-japan-where.html]
 
** "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, 1991-02-15, on the Voice of America; sources: [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/05/cp.00.html CNN], [[google:cache:traprockpeace.org/scr1441hurd.doc+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]],  [[google:cache:mondediplo.com/2004/11/02iraq+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [http://books.google.com/books?id=r01JOuwdf2oC&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22there+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop+and+that+is+for+the+iraqi+military%22&source=web&ots=GYW0RodERI&sig=KzaFf5YfvySCEojYnsgW1k8kT9s here], [http://blog.neo-libertarian.com/posts/1174764633.shtml here], and {{wikipedia|1991 uprisings in Iraq}} but mysteriously missing from the [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?year=1991&month=2 George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991] (a [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?submit=Search&search=Voice+of+America search for "Voice of America"] also does not find it).
 
** "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, 1991-02-15, on the Voice of America; sources: [http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0101/05/cp.00.html CNN], [[google:cache:traprockpeace.org/scr1441hurd.doc+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]],  [[google:cache:mondediplo.com/2004/11/02iraq+%22There+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop|here]], [http://books.google.com/books?id=r01JOuwdf2oC&pg=PA186&lpg=PA186&dq=%22there+is+another+way+for+the+bloodshed+to+stop+and+that+is+for+the+iraqi+military%22&source=web&ots=GYW0RodERI&sig=KzaFf5YfvySCEojYnsgW1k8kT9s here], [http://blog.neo-libertarian.com/posts/1174764633.shtml here], and {{wikipedia|1991 uprisings in Iraq}} but mysteriously missing from the [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?year=1991&month=2 George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991] (a [http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?submit=Search&search=Voice+of+America search for "Voice of America"] also does not find it).
 
** further reading: ''The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East'' by Robert Fisk [http://www.amazon.com/Great-War-Civilisation-Conquest-Middle/dp/1400075173/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4630502-8796617 Amazon] (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party)
 
** further reading: ''The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East'' by Robert Fisk [http://www.amazon.com/Great-War-Civilisation-Conquest-Middle/dp/1400075173/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4630502-8796617 Amazon] (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party)
 
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* '''1953''': Overthrowing the [[democratic]]ally-elected leader of [[Iran]], [[Mohammed Mosaddeq]] (or Mosaddegh or Mossadegh), and replacing him with a compliant monarch (the Shah), because we wanted more control over Iranian oil
===To Be Researched===
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=====To Be Researched=====
 
* starting two wars with Mexico
 
* starting two wars with Mexico
 
* Spanish-American war
 
* Spanish-American war
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** "[[wikisource:The War Prayer|The War Prayer]]", a short piece by [[Mark Twain]], was apparently written in outraged reaction to the US intervention in the Philippines (is this the same thing as the "conquest"?)
 
** "[[wikisource:The War Prayer|The War Prayer]]", a short piece by [[Mark Twain]], was apparently written in outraged reaction to the US intervention in the Philippines (is this the same thing as the "conquest"?)
 
* conquest of the Sandwich Islands
 
* conquest of the Sandwich Islands
* overthrowing the Mossadeq government
 
 
* training the Savak
 
* training the Savak
 
* overthrowing the Arbenz government
 
* overthrowing the Arbenz government
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* supplying the PKI's membership list to our new puppet government so that a half million Indonesians could be killed
 
* supplying the PKI's membership list to our new puppet government so that a half million Indonesians could be killed
 
** [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB52/ NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE _ STATE HISTORIANS CONCLUDE U.S. PASSED NAMES OF COMMUNISTS TO INDONESIAN ARMY, WHICH KILLED AT LEAST 105,000 IN 1965-66 ]
 
** [http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB52/ NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE _ STATE HISTORIANS CONCLUDE U.S. PASSED NAMES OF COMMUNISTS TO INDONESIAN ARMY, WHICH KILLED AT LEAST 105,000 IN 1965-66 ]
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* supplying the Indonesian government weapons so that they could invade and terrorize East-Timor for twenty years
 
* supplying the Indonesian government weapons so that they could invade and terrorize East-Timor for twenty years
 
* training death squads and torturers at the [[School of the Americas]] (now renamed)
 
* training death squads and torturers at the [[School of the Americas]] (now renamed)

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This page is about stains on America's honor. Those who either care about America or who claim to represent America's interests must learn from these lessons and prevent the mistakes of the past from being repeated.

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These items also fall into the category of American imperialism, something which conservatives generally deny exists.

  • George H.W. Bush urging Iraqi Shiites to rise up against Saddam Hussein with the promise that we were "on our way" and would protect them, and then backing off – thus allowing Saddam to murder almost a million of his own people (while our own General Schwarzkopf pleaded for just 12 more hours to reach Basra) [1]
    • "There is another way for the bloodshed to stop: And that is, for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside and then comply with the United Nations' resolutions and rejoin the family of peace-loving nations." -- GHWB, 1991-02-15, on the Voice of America; sources: CNN, here, here, here, here, and Wikipedia but mysteriously missing from the George (H.W.) Bush Presidential Library archives for Feb. 1991 (a search for "Voice of America" also does not find it).
    • further reading: The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East by Robert Fisk Amazon (unchecked; submitted by 3rd party)
  • 1953: Overthrowing the democratically-elected leader of Iran, Mohammed Mosaddeq (or Mosaddegh or Mossadegh), and replacing him with a compliant monarch (the Shah), because we wanted more control over Iranian oil
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